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Old Oct 28, 2007 | 09:54 PM
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Too much for a daily driver?

Im big on peformace lol and im bout too upgrade my suspension on my second camaro this ones a daily driver not a strip car like the other heres the list of want im going for right now

adj poly/rod lca's
adj poly/rod panhard
tubular wonder bar
weld in SFC
Coil overs front and back
Sophn sway bar set or hotchiks
tub a-arms
stock K-member
strut tower brace
peformace steering box 12:1 ratio?
front rebuild all Poly and bump steer rod kit endlinks
fat 9.5 inch tires all around
rollcage for chassis stiffness


Sounds kickass enough? i think i should be able too drive this daily with minimul road noise sept on the lcas and be able too do some track driving with it on the weekends. Are do u think its over kill and going too compromise ride horribly on the street? wich i dont care much bout the ride lol i just want too slam it into the corners with this one.
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Old Oct 29, 2007 | 01:16 AM
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Re: Too much for a daily driver?

It looks good. I don't see the point of the rollcage though. If it's a DD you are going to hate to get in and out of it. Guess it will depend on how many points it is. Just my .02
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Old Oct 29, 2007 | 10:39 AM
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Re: Too much for a daily driver?

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It looks good. I don't see the point of the rollcage though. If it's a DD you are going to hate to get in and out of it. Guess it will depend on how many points it is. Just my .02
They have roll cage door bar for a little extra that will either open up with the door or the are bent downward so getting in and out is much easier.

There is nothing that's too bad *** for the street, if you have fun with the car that's all that counts. Since you're dishing out all this money anyways, you should get the tubular k member and the tubular coilover a-arms to save some weight off the front end. Torque arm, and a set of big brakes might suit you well too.
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Old Oct 29, 2007 | 12:05 PM
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Re: Too much for a daily driver?

Of course ill have fun with it the the point of are cars =] why dump money into them if ur not lol. Its going too be a 8-point rollcage so it wont be too bad and rollcages do promote better chassis stiffness and in my opinion look sweet. And C5 brakes are going on all 4 corners as soon as the wheels get in already getting the coil over a-arms im not so sure about the K-member if i do it wont be till i swap the engine and suprisingly this set up is sorta cheap get all the rear stuff at umi in a package deal only like 300 and if theres ever another group purchase threw them itll be cheaper than that. only thing thats a bit steep is the coil overs and a-arms but i can understand the coil overs from sophn they come wit some good stuff.

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Old Oct 29, 2007 | 12:22 PM
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Re: Too much for a daily driver?

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Of course ill have fun with it the the point of are cars =] why dump money into them if ur not lol. Its going too be a 8-point rollcage so it wont be too bad and rollcages do promote better chassis stiffness and in my opinion look sweet. And C5 brakes are going on all 4 corners as soon as the wheels get in already getting the coil over a-arms im not so sure about the K-member if i do it wont be till i swap the engine and suprisingly this set up is sorta cheap get all the rear stuff at umi in a package deal only like 300 and if theres ever another group purchase threw them itll be cheaper than that. only thing thats a bit steep is the coil overs and a-arms but i can understand the coil overs from sophn they come wit some good stuff.
Don't get any other coilovers except for spohn, they're more expensive for a reason. I've seen strut towers bent completely upward, there's not much you can do about that when that happens. Spohn's kit has thick braces on the bottom and top of the tower to help prevent this. Tubular k-member does help, if you got nothing to do over winter then do it unless your engine swap is going to be in the near future.
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Old Oct 29, 2007 | 01:03 PM
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Re: Too much for a daily driver?

ya ive seen that happen too strut towers before its not pretty before my coilovers go in there going too get extra strength im planning on welding a tub skelo frame either inside of them are outside of them. i think it would look pretty trick outside of them powder coated. Ya im def going wit sophn best ive seen by far im still deciding wether i really need the rear coil over thou.
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Old Oct 29, 2007 | 05:42 PM
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Re: Too much for a daily driver?

There's no such thing as too much for a daily driver...

rock on...
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Old Oct 29, 2007 | 05:53 PM
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Re: Too much for a daily driver?

i agree completly never too much always building =] I mean just look at the F-Bomb camaro in Hot Road that thing is bad *** 1000hp and tame enough for a daily driver thats bad***
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Old Oct 29, 2007 | 09:52 PM
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Re: Too much for a daily driver?

I drove a similar setup for about 4 years as a daily driver. It was not an entirely unstreetable setup, but it is all going to depends on how much you can put up with. I love the way my Camaro performs... but on a rough road, it makes me want to bash it with a BFH. I drive a GTP as a daily driver now. It is much nicer on rough roads, and it isn't too slow where i feel like I am driving a toy.

You can do it... as long as you can put up with it.
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Old Oct 29, 2007 | 10:14 PM
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Re: Too much for a daily driver?

ya im going too keep my spring rate resonable and im sure ill be able too put up with the rest I dont have many rough roads too drive and the ones that arent that great are getting redone and im not worried about noise lol i cant hear the road when im driving anywayz my sound system makes sure of that. I have a friend that owns a 4th gen trans am totally redone suspension i was in the car with him one day and get go into a race with a cobra mustang they both gun it and theres a nice turn in the road right ahead of us the mustang had too hit the brakes my buddy slammed it into the corner it was bye bye mustang it just really made me want a autocross peformer on this camaro instead of building another track car.
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Old Oct 29, 2007 | 10:54 PM
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Re: Too much for a daily driver?

If you want 9.5" tires/wheels, they do not play well with coil overs. Stick with regular front springs. My 9" wheels & 275's are very close to the strut.... no room for coils unless you want smaller front tires & wheels. If they are offset outwards for clearance, you will have interference while turning.

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Old Oct 30, 2007 | 05:51 PM
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Re: Too much for a daily driver?

I might run smaller in the front but then again i might go all out im in the process of using a program at my shop that shows suspension performance etc etc im making a mock up of ours cars on it and messing with positions and mounting points of the suspension i want too be able too relocate the front struts for better clearance, travel and rienforce the towers as well i dont know if the relocating stuff will ever make it all the way but ill be rienforceing them for sure i did it on my jeep raised the mount point about a inch too for better strut travel with coil overs its a rock crawler well will be when its done lol.
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Old Nov 21, 2007 | 10:15 PM
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Re: Too much for a daily driver?

I don't see the point of coilovers personally. With that kind of money, you could do KONIs, weight jacks, and a set of heads for the cost of the coil-overs. I don't see the roll cage for a DD either; SFCs are a good idea, though. For sway bars, I'd stick with GM sets. Cheap, balanced, and easy to find...just not shiney.

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Old Nov 21, 2007 | 11:16 PM
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Re: Too much for a daily driver?

Sounds like a solid combo. Coilovers seem like overkill but it's your car.....
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Old Jan 21, 2008 | 03:09 PM
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Re: Too much for a daily driver?

I plan to drift my DD camaro. So coil-overs is the only way to go, also looking into the racecraft 2" drop spindles for correct geometry...another reason for the CO's

But I did hear from J&M Products or hotpart (member name for TGO) say that spohns QA1 bearings are crap and dont last at all...I am clearing this up in the "Best strut mount" thread.

I am also looking to do a T-5 swap with a Super T-5 kit from Astro performance to be installed as well for the 650hp ft/lbs capablity (in which case I will never hit that with my LO3 which will also be staying, looking for 400hp) NO I WILL NOT SWAP FOR A 350 OR ANY OTHER MOTOR. Sorry for the CAPS, but everyone tells me to swap and its starting to get annoying..haha...funny but it is. Swap 350, swap 350....swap 350...thats all I hear when I bring my motor up...anyway..

I cant wait to get started on this project so Ill pay close attention to your thread as your in the same premises as me....just-you have the money...HAHA.
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Old Jan 21, 2008 | 04:39 PM
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Re: Too much for a daily driver?

Originally Posted by I H8 WWD
I plan to drift my DD camaro. So coil-overs is the only way to go.
Why are coil-overs the only way to go for drifting?
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Old Jan 21, 2008 | 04:57 PM
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Re: Too much for a daily driver?

question whats the point of adj lower control arms?
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Old Jan 22, 2008 | 10:48 AM
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Re: Too much for a daily driver?

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Why are coil-overs the only way to go for drifting?
Haha...its not, I just meant since I live in Cleveland (very crappy roads all over) and my Camaro will be a Daily Driver and weekend drifter I will need the ability to change ride height and firmness as much as possible, I dont want to set it up for street then try and drift it with a softer suspension...you know. It will keep it streetable with adjustability.

I could go with what I wanted at first (until I saw the 2" drop spindles from Racecraft) which was a Full Koni adjustable shocks and B&G suspension springs....2" drop

But the drop spindles keep geometry stock, so if I were to get the B&G I would have camber and alignment problems (not much but enough to count in drifting).

So yeah, CO's are the best setup for me in my vision...I just need to find a good set, might just go with spohn even though they may be weak supports.....might have someone fab up some braces or something.

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Old Jan 22, 2008 | 03:21 PM
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Re: Too much for a daily driver?

oh ok makes sense I guess.
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