Simple question. How true is this?
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Simple question. How true is this?
Every time I mention to my pops that I'm thinking about getting lowering springs for my Camaro he always says "The car is low enough to the ground why make it lower? You do know if you lower it there will be more condensation which will lead to things rusting quicker"
Just wondering -> How true is his last statement??
Just wondering -> How true is his last statement??
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Re: Simple question. How true is this?
true in its own way, but so long as the car isnt sitting in the grass, you wont have an issue with that.
if your springs are stock, its possible they are wornout and the car is sitting lower than stock anyway. 1" lowering springs may actually raise the car
If your interested, im probably going to have a low mileage set of eibach sportlines available real soon, if your interested.
if your springs are stock, its possible they are wornout and the car is sitting lower than stock anyway. 1" lowering springs may actually raise the car
If your interested, im probably going to have a low mileage set of eibach sportlines available real soon, if your interested.
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Re: Simple question. How true is this?
Yea the springs are stock. I'm going to hold off on the springs tho until the winter ends. Had a tough time getting through the snow last year. Can't imagine how many times I'd get stuck with lowered springs.
Not only that I have to get my front and rear end checked out. I have knocks and squeaks that happens whenever I'm driving slow. Maybe the poly bushings need to be regreased? They were put in around March this year.
Not only that I have to get my front and rear end checked out. I have knocks and squeaks that happens whenever I'm driving slow. Maybe the poly bushings need to be regreased? They were put in around March this year.
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Re: Simple question. How true is this?
i might have a set of sportlines avaiable real soon as well, less than 3,000 on them.
condensation if the car is lowered.... haha no! as stated if the car is sitting in the grass then maybe but it really wouldnt matter how low that car was for that to happen. your stock springs depending on how many miles are prob most deffinitly sagging alil low, so putting lowering springs could raise it as 86TA said.
poly bushings shouldnt cause knocks.... squeaks ummm yea thats a definite but thats the trade off. i dont have a rubber bushing left on my car anywhere, all poly and i got alot of squeaks, i dont care how many times and how often u grease them they are going to squeak. as far as the knocks go... get it checked out
condensation if the car is lowered.... haha no! as stated if the car is sitting in the grass then maybe but it really wouldnt matter how low that car was for that to happen. your stock springs depending on how many miles are prob most deffinitly sagging alil low, so putting lowering springs could raise it as 86TA said.
poly bushings shouldnt cause knocks.... squeaks ummm yea thats a definite but thats the trade off. i dont have a rubber bushing left on my car anywhere, all poly and i got alot of squeaks, i dont care how many times and how often u grease them they are going to squeak. as far as the knocks go... get it checked out
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Re: Simple question. How true is this?
Squeaks...you'll need to go through and check all the screws and fasteners, get a set of sub frame connectors, and stay away from as much poly as you can. I have poly sway bar bushings (wish they were poly-graphite) and on the pan hard bar. I'd rather have a rod end than polyurathane, personally. I have heavy duty rubber on the body end of the LCAs and a rod end on the axle...I used to have poly there, and I hated it.
Why is everyone selling their Sportlines?
Why is everyone selling their Sportlines?
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Re: Simple question. How true is this?
i automatically assumed he knew it was the poly bushings that was squeaking, but yea subframes etc will tighten up the car and get rid of dash squeaks etc. im not sure how bad the other poly bushings are but i have polygraphite throughout my entire car and i still got squeaks... altho it isnt really that bad, personally i dont care lol u cant hear the squeaks with my true duals anyway 
im not totaly sure if im gona sell my sportlines... i love them but i think i want more heavy duty rear springs, something with around 180lbs-200 rear and if i do that i will have to upgrade the fronts to 800lbs most likely.... everyone says how much the spring rates are bad on sprotlines/prokit and how they really arent performance sets... i just read that the hotkins lowering springs are only 600lb fronts!!! WTF! im glad i went with sportlines over that.!

im not totaly sure if im gona sell my sportlines... i love them but i think i want more heavy duty rear springs, something with around 180lbs-200 rear and if i do that i will have to upgrade the fronts to 800lbs most likely.... everyone says how much the spring rates are bad on sprotlines/prokit and how they really arent performance sets... i just read that the hotkins lowering springs are only 600lb fronts!!! WTF! im glad i went with sportlines over that.!
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Re: Simple question. How true is this?
im getting rid of mine cause the cas is too low and they dont play well with my lakewood bellhousing, its eaten pavement a couple times
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Re: Simple question. How true is this?
I still don't think that the 180-200 lbs rear springs are a good idea. You really don't need anything over a 125-150 lb spring. You could run that with a lowered PHB and be ok, but I don't think you'll want that much rear spring. I think that the Sportlines are progressive with their stiffest rate at 130. That means at full compression, the springs are 130. It takes a while for the spring to get to 130 so it seems softer.
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Re: Simple question. How true is this?
yea the rear springs are 109-130 progressive.... i would like them to be alil stiffer tho, like the prokits 160 fully compressed rating, is that a big diff... something u can actually feel?
why wouldnt u run springs that high? ive seen a few setups with close to 200 rears and 800 fronts.... track cars tho lol
why wouldnt u run springs that high? ive seen a few setups with close to 200 rears and 800 fronts.... track cars tho lol
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Re: Simple question. How true is this?
I've not ran the Sportlines, but I know that compared to the stockers don't compress as far as the as fast.
I've seen cars with rear rates like that, but most are track cars like you mentioned. I'm not trying to tell you what to do, but I'd start with some softer springs in the 125-150 range and try from there. If you feel the rears are too soft at 130 max compression, try some 150s. You'll be picking up about 20 inch pounds over the max spring rate of the Sportlines and 41 over the minimum. With 200s, I'd think that for driving on rougher roads, especially at highway speeds, that the rebound would be a little extreme without some serious dampening.
I've seen cars with rear rates like that, but most are track cars like you mentioned. I'm not trying to tell you what to do, but I'd start with some softer springs in the 125-150 range and try from there. If you feel the rears are too soft at 130 max compression, try some 150s. You'll be picking up about 20 inch pounds over the max spring rate of the Sportlines and 41 over the minimum. With 200s, I'd think that for driving on rougher roads, especially at highway speeds, that the rebound would be a little extreme without some serious dampening.
Re: Simple question. How true is this?
On a side note, most likely if you hear sqeaking, it is metal to metal somewhere, usually bad bushings. Do yourself a favor and make sure all of you suspension and steering parts are in good shape before you lower it or have all the parts and do it at the same time.
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