UMI a-arms
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no, not done yet
ive been in contact with ryan, just sent hom another email today actually so hopefully i will get a update soon
ive been in contact with ryan, just sent hom another email today actually so hopefully i will get a update soon
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Ya I keep in touch with him about every 2 weeks. Just thought Id ask you guys and see if anyone had them yet.
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Sweet, hopefully we'll be getting a Christmas present from UMI.
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showing up for christmas would be great! Looking forward to finally getting these Re: UMI a-arms
Ryan, Nice A-arms. I personally like the design and you have the bends in the correct position for strength to minimise and bend failure since it is before the spring pocket (Thumbs up). I also like how the tubing welds directly to the balljoint cup without the use of a plate and socket cup.
I have an idea for you that I would personally buy if it were availiable, AND I personally 'think' (other responses will tell so please cirtique me people) would buy also if made availiable. How bout using a weight jacker cup installed into an A-arm version option? What I mean is, have the option you show above with the standard bottom spring cup, and also make a version with this swivel weight jacker cup and screw sticking out the bottom. The crew could be cut down to only about 2" max so it does not hang down low. If interested I could give you future sketch ideas of this to show how the basic design would be in order to have adequate clearance and support.
No one yet have developed such an A-arm and instead has toyed with the problematic coilover setups which are not and never will be popular to anyoine except the full time drag car crowd. Issues with strut coilovers? Tire width clerarance issues, tower bracing concerns from the masses make the product hard to convince people to buy it, and the fact that the spring has to twist every time the steering wheel is turned. With a coventional weightjacker setup, 1)the convetional spring is used yet bind is keep to a minimum since the lower spring cup swivels with the articulation swing, 2) wide front tire inner clearance issue is nil, 3) the tower does not need any bracing like a sturt coilover setup would, and 4) any strut can be used so the purcahser does not have to suffer the additional cost of buying a proprietory size sturt to acept the coilover.
You could also sell the slightly shorter springs to go with the setup and offer various rates. People would not have to worry greatly about ride height and spring rates because each could be adjusted within the small but still adequate range of screw jack adjustment. NOTE: The screw jack in the coventional position does NOT have to travel as far as the coilover adjuster would have to on an outer articulation coilover strut. A one inch adjustment of a coilover strut is equal to that of a .42% of an inch adjustment of a coventional weight jacker spring. Thats why 2" screw max trhreads would be needed if that.
PM or Email me if interested in more info.
Dean
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Swivel screw jack bottm spring cup- this could be used upside down with the screw facing towards the ground.- http://www.colemanracing.com/catalog...?cPath=49_1324
I have an idea for you that I would personally buy if it were availiable, AND I personally 'think' (other responses will tell so please cirtique me people) would buy also if made availiable. How bout using a weight jacker cup installed into an A-arm version option? What I mean is, have the option you show above with the standard bottom spring cup, and also make a version with this swivel weight jacker cup and screw sticking out the bottom. The crew could be cut down to only about 2" max so it does not hang down low. If interested I could give you future sketch ideas of this to show how the basic design would be in order to have adequate clearance and support.
No one yet have developed such an A-arm and instead has toyed with the problematic coilover setups which are not and never will be popular to anyoine except the full time drag car crowd. Issues with strut coilovers? Tire width clerarance issues, tower bracing concerns from the masses make the product hard to convince people to buy it, and the fact that the spring has to twist every time the steering wheel is turned. With a coventional weightjacker setup, 1)the convetional spring is used yet bind is keep to a minimum since the lower spring cup swivels with the articulation swing, 2) wide front tire inner clearance issue is nil, 3) the tower does not need any bracing like a sturt coilover setup would, and 4) any strut can be used so the purcahser does not have to suffer the additional cost of buying a proprietory size sturt to acept the coilover.
You could also sell the slightly shorter springs to go with the setup and offer various rates. People would not have to worry greatly about ride height and spring rates because each could be adjusted within the small but still adequate range of screw jack adjustment. NOTE: The screw jack in the coventional position does NOT have to travel as far as the coilover adjuster would have to on an outer articulation coilover strut. A one inch adjustment of a coilover strut is equal to that of a .42% of an inch adjustment of a coventional weight jacker spring. Thats why 2" screw max trhreads would be needed if that.
PM or Email me if interested in more info.
Dean
Sakeed123@aol.com
Swivel screw jack bottm spring cup- this could be used upside down with the screw facing towards the ground.- http://www.colemanracing.com/catalog...?cPath=49_1324
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... instead has toyed with the problematic coilover setups which are not and never will be popular to anyoine except the full time drag car crowd. Issues with strut coilovers? Tire width clerarance issues, tower bracing concerns from the masses make the product hard to convince people to buy it
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http://www.imangry.net/ne3/Kat/blah/blahz/100_1359.JPG
And I have a good 1/2 inch of clearance if not more.
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Kat, can I see a pic of the outer edge of the tire tucking inside the wheelwell with that size and coilovers?
Third gens are having a hard time competing against the 4th gens due to the 315/35-17's they can run which is a 12.5 inch wide tire. Carl Hunter has done this on his but no way with coilovers. THe only way to be able to set corner weights and ride height with spring rate changes are with weightjackers installed on either top or bottom (top take a whole lot of fabbing that most would never be able to do).
Also I had mentioned to Steve once about the worst ride quality with the tiny 2.5 and 2.625 coilover springs. THe better quality in that size is to go the 3's or go to the 2.625 barrel springs which flare out.
Third gens are having a hard time competing against the 4th gens due to the 315/35-17's they can run which is a 12.5 inch wide tire. Carl Hunter has done this on his but no way with coilovers. THe only way to be able to set corner weights and ride height with spring rate changes are with weightjackers installed on either top or bottom (top take a whole lot of fabbing that most would never be able to do).
Also I had mentioned to Steve once about the worst ride quality with the tiny 2.5 and 2.625 coilover springs. THe better quality in that size is to go the 3's or go to the 2.625 barrel springs which flare out.
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I dont have a direct on shot at the moment but here is one that will give you a good idea.
http://www.imangry.net/ne3/Kat/blah/blahz/100_1441s.jpg
As for ride quality, the vert rides alot better than my 04 GTO.
http://www.imangry.net/ne3/Kat/blah/blahz/100_1441s.jpg
As for ride quality, the vert rides alot better than my 04 GTO.
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I can only reference my car and state that the tire edge is sitting as faroutward as possible without hitting the metal fender. Even a 1/8 in more I know it would rub I have it speced that close with my hubcentric spacers. I am a 9.8" wide tire on an 8" factory wheel and I could not go to a 10" wheel up front with coilovers. If I added 2" on the backspacing of my rim it would clear the struts by about 3/8"
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emailed him yesterday, or the day before. no word yet
coming for Christmas is not looking good
coming for Christmas is not looking good
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Update......
Ryan emailed me this week to say the A arms will be ready "soon". So no show for Christmas but would make a good new year's resolution.
Ryan emailed me this week to say the A arms will be ready "soon". So no show for Christmas but would make a good new year's resolution.
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i dont have any, havent even seen ryan on the boards lately, must be busy...
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This is getting really out of control. I ordered and paid for these in late August. Haven't heard one word about them, except for the info I have gotten here on TGO.
Same thing happened when I ordered the Trq arm from UMI. Paid for it, no info from Ryan for 3 months. Then it appears.
I dunno why he doesn't keep us updated? I guess all of us at TGO are not important to his bussiness anymore.
Same thing happened when I ordered the Trq arm from UMI. Paid for it, no info from Ryan for 3 months. Then it appears.
I dunno why he doesn't keep us updated? I guess all of us at TGO are not important to his bussiness anymore.
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I just like to think that he is very busy. A little more communication would be nice, but im not really concerned, he has never let me down.
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Never let you down??? How is taking your money, and telling you that the part is a month away. Then not communicating with you on the status, making you wait 3 months, (4 months in this case), not letting you down?????
I'm about fed up with UMI.
I'm about fed up with UMI.
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this is a little harsh, the torque arms were not even finished when we ordered them, and the a-arms were still in the design stage, not even prototyped yet AFAIK, but they were nice enough to let us buy in at the GP price anyway. I agree, its been a long time, but these things take time I'd rather wait a while and get something thats right, and fits, then get something thats off, and just wastes my time installing/removing/rebuilding/sendingback/installing again.
I do wish Ryan would chime in on this and tell us something.
If you think this is bad, i waited 4 months for a "in-stock" spoiler from wingswest, almost 5 months for an engine, 8 months for body and paint...
I do wish Ryan would chime in on this and tell us something.
If you think this is bad, i waited 4 months for a "in-stock" spoiler from wingswest, almost 5 months for an engine, 8 months for body and paint...
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He shouldn't state, take a month to ship, and not tell us whats going on. I don't feel like I should have to chase the info either. Once a week, every other week, heck, once a month, an email to all of us waiting would be nice.
I feel UMI should at least keep us up to date on whats going on with our orders though, that's what I'm really upset about. How hard is it to let us know whats going on.
And look what happened with the tq arm, all that waiting, and it still didn't fit the 700R4 correctly, come to find out I was the test mule for the 700R4. Which I was Ok with too. but that, plus this delay, I dunno if I can really state that I am happy with UMI right now.
I don't mind the waiting, but I do mind when I have no idea whats going on. I really hope UMI figures this out.
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This time of year is always busy for anyone. I would think UMI is no exception. I've dealt with Ryan multiple times and everytime he's assured me that my stuff I ordered is on it's way and I believe him and sure enough, 1-2 days later it has arrived. Just be patient. It's not just 1 part they have to make, you ALL made orders at the same time for the same part so it takes time to make them all perfectly everytime. UMI parts are totally worth the wait IMO.
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This time of year is always busy for anyone. I would think UMI is no exception. I've dealt with Ryan multiple times and everytime he's assured me that my stuff I ordered is on it's way and I believe him and sure enough, 1-2 days later it has arrived. Just be patient. It's not just 1 part they have to make, you ALL made orders at the same time for the same part so it takes time to make them all perfectly everytime. UMI parts are totally worth the wait IMO.
I know UMI parts are good, I practicly have their whole catalog already installed on my car.
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Same here Kris. Lets just hope we hear "They have been shipped today!" pretty soon. It would change from the good old "Coming soon!". Ryan and UMI are both awesome in my book, but this is starting to be long... Im waiting for these parts to fit my air ride kit.
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Got a PM today from Ryan
Let's hope this is the last delay.
Originally Posted by UMI Performance
Hi Kris,
If you e-mail me or PM me I think I have replied to them all?
They were completed at Christmas time but we weren't happy with the alignment and had to lengthen the drivers side arm (which they are doing right now) As soon as the alignment comes back positive then they are ready to roll. All the pcs are built, the fixture is all we need to adjust. It will be extremely soon.
Thanks for the patience!
Ryan
If you e-mail me or PM me I think I have replied to them all?
They were completed at Christmas time but we weren't happy with the alignment and had to lengthen the drivers side arm (which they are doing right now) As soon as the alignment comes back positive then they are ready to roll. All the pcs are built, the fixture is all we need to adjust. It will be extremely soon.
Thanks for the patience!
Ryan
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Gah, I just sent Ryan a PM 2 seconds ago... and like you said, lets hope this is the last delay. Thinking about it, (even if its taking pretty long) this is the way of doing "things right". When we get them, they will be absolutely trouble free, perform and act like the oem piece.
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Car: 91 RS Camaro, 75 L82 Corvette
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All I want is some form of comunication between the customers who have prepaid hundreds of dollars. Is that really so hard to do. I love UMI products, hate the comunications. I don't feel like I should have ask for it either, UMI should update us on a regular basis.
On items that are not in development, shipping and comunincations have been great.
On items that are not in development, shipping and comunincations have been great.
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