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Old Jun 26, 2009 | 01:54 PM
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would this brace work

hey i was wondering would this brace fit underneath a stock GTA hood also i have slp runners and edelbrock lower intake...


http://www.hawksthirdgenparts.com/br...dercoated.html


also anyone who has this product do you have to drill this in or does it bolt up to the factory mounts... thanks a bunch..
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Old Jun 26, 2009 | 06:27 PM
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Re: would this brace work

its quite obvious by looking at it that it DOES NOT bolt to anything already on the car, you will have to drill 2 holes for each side. Not a big deal.

From the design, it looks like it will clear, but im not positive
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Old Jun 26, 2009 | 08:06 PM
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Re: would this brace work

Originally Posted by 88fastgta
hey i was wondering would this brace fit underneath a stock GTA hood also i have slp runners and edelbrock lower intake...


http://www.hawksthirdgenparts.com/br...dercoated.html


also anyone who has this product do you have to drill this in or does it bolt up to the factory mounts... thanks a bunch..
i have this strut tower brace , i bought this from mac performance 2 years ago for $99 in chrome ,,,it bolts right up to the top strut tower bolts ..no drilling!..it clears with my edelbrock rpm intake and edelbrock carb ...along with this i have wonder bar and sub frame connectors ..my car craves corners!!..good strut tower brace ..you should get it...
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Old Jun 26, 2009 | 08:08 PM
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Re: would this brace work

thanks man... just what i wanted to hear...... no drilling.... but do you think this will clear the gta hood... i think these hoods are a little lower i think....
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Old Jun 26, 2009 | 08:17 PM
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Re: would this brace work

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thanks man... just what i wanted to hear...... no drilling.... but do you think this will clear the gta hood... i think these hoods are a little lower i think....
firebird hoods?..this i don't know ..on my camaro have the round edelbrock air cleaner and it clears the hood with about 2 inches or so ..more or less...the brace is far away from the air cleaner when bolted on ...it is a good quality item for the price...give weilyn a call at mac performance ,,he will take care of you...he shipped to me here in canada over 2 years ago at a reasonable price ..class act!..good luck!
BTW , nice car you have there!

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Old Jun 26, 2009 | 08:30 PM
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Re: would this brace work

thanks man..... i do want to get this brace as well as the wonderbar.....
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Old Jun 26, 2009 | 08:50 PM
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Re: would this brace work

Originally Posted by 88fastgta
thanks man... just what i wanted to hear...... no drilling.... but do you think this will clear the gta hood... i think these hoods are a little lower i think....
You are more right than you know....

Not only are Firebird hoods lower profile, but the GTA hood also has different inner bracing, that causes problems.

I know this, because I was a test subject for the UMI Performance 2-pt STB under GTA hoods.

I initially beat one 3" long section of the bracing up, as it was holding the hood up a little over 1/8". Beating it got it so close to flush you couldn't tell, but even then, it was TOUCHING. Not really holding the hood up, but ZERO clearance. I finally just cut that section of bracing out.

The UMI one is even notched to clear the plenum, so it can sit as low as possible. The brace your showing doesn't appear to have the notch, so it would sit that much higher up to begin with.
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Old Jun 26, 2009 | 09:08 PM
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Re: would this brace work

well do they even make one for gta hoods.. it also says that it would not fit aftermarket intake and runners... looks like its a no go for this mod..
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Old Jun 26, 2009 | 09:29 PM
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Re: would this brace work

Originally Posted by 88fastgta
well do they even make one for gta hoods.. it also says that it would not fit aftermarket intake and runners... looks like its a no go for this mod..
I can take measurements on my camaro and tell you how high it is ...then you can calculate the height..
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Old Jun 26, 2009 | 09:33 PM
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Re: would this brace work

alright thanks man.
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Old Jun 26, 2009 | 09:35 PM
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Re: would this brace work

Originally Posted by 88fastgta
well do they even make one for gta hoods.. it also says that it would not fit aftermarket intake and runners... looks like its a no go for this mod..
If you built a 12-sec car, mods obviously aren't a concern, so why worry about trimming the inner bracing? Cut it & be done.

Not like you are REMOVING the bracing completely.....Just making it shorter, in one are.
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Old Jun 26, 2009 | 09:43 PM
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Re: would this brace work

i dont understand what you mean...... cut what.... lol im sorry i guess its kinda late for me...
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Old Jun 26, 2009 | 11:10 PM
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Re: would this brace work

I know that you are asking about a strut tower brace that will fit a pontiac. but heres a pic of mmy BMR 3point brace on my 86 IROC. Good luck.
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Old Jun 27, 2009 | 12:46 PM
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Re: would this brace work

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I know that you are asking about a strut tower brace that will fit a pontiac. but heres a pic of mmy BMR 3point brace on my 86 IROC. Good luck.
very nice brace, but the one from Mac performance doesn't need to have any holes drilled or cut anything out ..it will bolt directly on the strut tower shock bolts....it takes about 15 minutes to bolt it on and that's taking your time!! ..it is strong and nice looking in chrome...i will get some measurements for you today...
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Old Jun 27, 2009 | 04:36 PM
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Re: would this brace work

BTW....The UMI one I posted above is a direct bolt-on too. No need to drill any holes.

There is an additional hole per side in the mounts, which is PURELY OPTIONAL to use, to put in a 3rd bolt (which are included). I never bothered to put those in & am perfectly happy, the way it is without them.

And there ia no way the MAC one is gonna fit under a GTA hood, with its different internal bracing. It apparently has neither the notch to clear the plenum, which would set it higher & could mean it hits a GTA hood even worse.

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Old Jun 28, 2009 | 12:51 PM
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Re: would this brace work

hey stephen... which one did you get.... and what did you have to do to make it fit....... do you think it will clear slp runners.... very interested in this mod....
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Old Jun 28, 2009 | 12:58 PM
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Re: would this brace work

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hey stephen... which one did you get.... and what did you have to do to make it fit....... do you think it will clear slp runners.... very interested in this mod....
I got the UMI one I provided the link to above.

Does the SLP runners set the upper plenum up any higher?

I had my STB as low as possible to clear the hood bracing, but it still didn't & while it cleared the plenum, it turned out the torque of the engine was enough to make it rub some. I currently have it off & am sanding the top of the plenum down, to get rid of the gouge.

I'm gonna raise the STB up in its adjustment range, which is why I went ahead & cut the offending section of the hood bracing out.

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Old Jun 28, 2009 | 01:06 PM
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Re: would this brace work

no i dont think so.... they are fatter i know that..... i have to look at my hood and see what to cut out.... does this really make a difference... that strut brace...
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Old Jul 4, 2009 | 02:11 AM
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Re: would this brace work

I believe UMI says in the description of their STB that it wont clear aftermarket runners. I may be wrong though...
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