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Old Feb 8, 2010 | 12:34 AM
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anybody use these lca's and panhard?

just wonderin if anybody on here has these yet?are they good quality?: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/82-02...item1c0ffba04b
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Old Feb 8, 2010 | 01:06 AM
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Any time I see something listed on ebay, that's not listed anywhere else, and the company doesn't have a website, my first conclusion is that it's cheaply made, mass produced crap from China.

It's a bit hard to trust feedback since most people leave feedback when the item shows up, not a year later after they've been subjected to abuse.

If it were me I'd buy a used set of name brand parts.
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Old Feb 8, 2010 | 01:47 AM
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Any time I see something listed on ebay, that's not listed anywhere else, and the company doesn't have a website, my first conclusion is that it's cheaply made, mass produced crap from China.

It's a bit hard to trust feedback since most people leave feedback when the item shows up, not a year later after they've been subjected to abuse.

If it were me I'd buy a used set of name brand parts.
yeah thats what i was thinkin to,but the price makes it tempting.

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yeah thats what i was thinkin to,but the price makes it tempting.
If you want a good quality product go to Spohn Performance for the Tube type Rear LCA's & Panhard Bar. A little more then the e-bay crap, but from Spohn you know what you are getting. I have both products on my car now for eight years with very good results over the U-channel stock parts.
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I'm a big fan of http://umiperformance.com/. Not only do they have good, quality parts & are TGO Sponsors.....Summit Racing carries their products. And you can be sure that a big place like Summit Racing, wouldn't sell junk stuff, so the UMI Performance stuff is very good..
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Hmm.....

100% made in the USA
Powder coated
Bigger diameter tubing than Spohn or UMI
Costs less than half
No company website...ebay sales only

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got to start some place. right.. (why not ebay)

Give them a shot.. use paypal. (Visa). and your safe..

im looking to have a set of arms made out of alum.
going to drop a set of BMR arms off at a shop and have them Copy the Arms... just for My car.. i dont use a Torque arm any more,(laderbars) and all the aftermarket Arms are Like 10lbs going to see if i can get a set done in the 4lbs ball park out of alum..see what they say on cost.. and see whats out there thats about the same in LBS and cost..
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you can be sure that a big place like Summit Racing, wouldn't sell junk stuff
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/TAM-KI-80/
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I went ahead and baught a set, couldn't pass it up for the price, they seem pretty sturdy from the description but i'll keep a close eye on them and if they show any signs of fatigue i'll return them and if not its only a $100 so i figure what heck i'll give em a shot.
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got to start some place. right.. (why not ebay)

Give them a shot.. use paypal. (Visa). and your safe..

im looking to have a set of arms made out of alum.
going to drop a set of BMR arms off at a shop and have them Copy the Arms... just for My car.. i dont use a Torque arm any more,(laderbars) and all the aftermarket Arms are Like 10lbs going to see if i can get a set done in the 4lbs ball park out of alum..see what they say on cost.. and see whats out there thats about the same in LBS and cost..
Make sure you keep an eye on the jam nuts. I looked a few aluminum sets and thought my safety was a main priority even though some companies have said they run high 8's with them. I would be worried about the threads pulling out and they fatigue more quickly then steel do.
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I went ahead and baught a set, couldn't pass it up for the price, they seem pretty sturdy from the description but i'll keep a close eye on them and if they show any signs of fatigue i'll return them and if not its only a $100 so i figure what heck i'll give em a shot.

So you knew you were going to buy them no matter what opinions were given? I dont understand why you would ask for input in the first place?
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So you knew you were going to buy them no matter what opinions were given? I dont understand why you would ask for input in the first place?
he asked sunday.. and orderd monday, after getting a few replys...

whats wrong with that..

thats how it works
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Make sure you keep an eye on the jam nuts. I looked a few aluminum sets and thought my safety was a main priority even though some companies have said they run high 8's with them. I would be worried about the threads pulling out and they fatigue more quickly then steel do.

am i missing somthing?

I would be using steel bolts and Nuts. with alum arms
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am i missing somthing?

I would be using steel bolts and Nuts. with alum arms
I think he's talking about the aluminum threads in the arms fatiguing & the jam nut loosening, because of the rod end moving.
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I think he's talking about the aluminum threads in the arms fatiguing & the jam nut loosening, because of the rod end moving.
i dont think we are talking about the same type of trailn arms.
mine needs only to made from alum. and have 2 bolts ea.
thats It. like a stock arm only made from alum Tube.

I dont use the torque arm any more Dumped it years ago.
and have been using light Wt stock arms. now looking to get a copy made.
and I have a Set made By BMR, that i will copy out of Alum..
all the bushings from the BMR parts will Push right in when done.

Most of the aftermarket arms tip the scales at 10lbs+

should get a copy thats less then 5lbs.

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i dont think we are talking about the same type of trailn arms.
mine needs only to made from alum. and have 2 bolts ea.
thats It. like a stock arm only made from alum Tube.

I dont use the torque arm any more Dumped it years ago.
and have been using light Wt stock arms. now looking to get a copy made.
and I have a Set made By BMR, that i will copy out of Alum..

Most of the aftermarket arms tip the scales at 10lbs+

should get a copy thats less then 5lbs.
Maybe he was referring to adjustable aluminum LCAs? That is what I was thinking. Sounds you are wanting non-adjustable LCAs, made out of aluminum.
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Maybe he was referring to adjustable aluminum LCAs? That is what I was thinking. Sounds you are wanting non-adjustable LCAs, made out of aluminum.
yes..my 9" ford rear is a type of lader bar set up. now.

dont need all the steel at ea end, could shave off a few LBS.
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with the south side bars, do you even need the control arms???
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I don't understand how they are selling SFC's for $10.00? There is more money in the tubing then $10.00... something isn't right.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...m=120517228999
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I don't understand how they are selling SFC's for $10.00? There is more money in the tubing then $10.00... something isn't right.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...m=120517228999
no reserve auction and nobody really wanted them?
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I don't understand how they are selling SFC's for $10.00? There is more money in the tubing then $10.00... something isn't right.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...m=120517228999
Home business? No overhead? Manual benders? I mean really.....How much does 2 sticks of steel cost?

For that matter....Look at how thin it is. Cheap Chinese/Korean made steel?
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no reserve auction and nobody really wanted them?
They have sold about 10 sets like that, its crazy.

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Home business? No overhead? Manual benders? I mean really.....How much does 2 sticks of steel cost?

For that matter....Look at how thin it is. Cheap Chinese/Korean made steel?
I think I know who is making them. If you look closely you can figure it out. But how they are selling so cheap? I have no idea..
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I think he's talking about the aluminum threads in the arms fatiguing & the jam nut loosening, because of the rod end moving.
Thats wha I was referring to. If you are just using aluminum stock with poly bushings then you should be fine.
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Thats wha I was referring to. If you are just using aluminum stock with poly bushings then you should be fine.

thats what i was thinking.

just somthing light WT at ea end is all,..anything better looking then the stock arms,
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So you knew you were going to buy them no matter what opinions were given? I dont understand why you would ask for input in the first place?
Not necessarily, if someone would have told me they had bought a set and they broke or they got ripped off i wouldn't have bought them,thats why i asked for input,but nobody seems to know much more about them than i do and the only draw back is the company is a new e-bay seller with no other background,so i figure its probably some dude welding these up his garage on the weekends or something just to make some extra cash,they have a warranty so if i dont like them i can return them,and if its a rip off im covered by pay-pal,so screw it i'll be the guinea pig.
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I talked to the guy today and did a little more research and i've come to the conclusion that these must be j&m products's overstock, first because they look alot like j&m's and second the guy thats selling them on ebay also works for hotpart.com where he emailed me from,and they have lots of j&m products @ hotpart.com,so he must have got a deal on there overstock and flipped em on ebay to make a quick buck,works for me!

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Ive always been a fan of BMR stuff. But if the price is right, and you feel satisfied for what you paid. And the performance that you are looking for, then by all means Get them. I personally like an adjustable panhard bar because it leaves you more options in the future. But i guess its all a matter or preference. and price. Good Luck
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I talked to the guy today and did a little more research and i've come to the conclusion that these must be j&m products's overstock, first because they look alot like j&m's and second the guy thats selling them on ebay also works for hotpart.com where he emailed me from,and they have lots of j&m products @ hotpart.com,so he must have got a deal on there overstock and flipped em on ebay to make a quick buck,works for me!
"Overstock"...is that what they call in now. When I was a kid we used to say it fell off the back of a truck.

Yea....it's a HOT part alright.......think about it.

No one can make and sell for that price....AND...make a profit.
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I don't understand how they are selling SFC's for $10.00? There is more money in the tubing then $10.00... something isn't right.
2"x1.5"x0.083" is what, 1.9 lbs/ft? Two bars at about 5 feet long each is 19 lbs. What's steel at now, say $800/ton? That's $0.40/lb, so about $7.60 in steel each. No machining or welding involved, just a cut and two little crush bends that your grandma could make with her bare hands. Maybe a nickel for the two plastic end caps. Probably only costs $15 to ship, too. :-P
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we only get .02 cents a pound for steel from our scrap guy, i think he gets .04 cents a pound for it
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"Overstock"...is that what they call in now. When I was a kid we used to say it fell off the back of a truck.

Yea....it's a HOT part alright.......think about it.

No one can make and sell for that price....AND...make a profit.
i really dont care if its a hot part or not, thats not my problem,but i seriously doubt they are stolen,and i have thought about it,whatever the hell the deal is as long i get my parts i dont care!

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It really does work....honest
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here we go!this thread is gonna be great!

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I went ahead and baught a set, couldn't pass it up for the price, they seem pretty sturdy from the description but i'll keep a close eye on them and if they show any signs of fatigue i'll return them and if not its only a $100 so i figure what heck i'll give em a shot.
Did you get them yet? how do they look and feel?
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I have a set being shipped in today, I'll take some pics and post them.
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Packaging was good



Panhard bar




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All of them




I like them
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big mig weld, but all in all them look pretty nice.
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I got some LCARBS from them and they look pretty sound.
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I got some LCARBS from them and they look pretty sound.
i picked up a set of those too the other day, they are made well, the finish is good. they are a tad wide, bit should pull in when the bolts are tight. Bolt in too, for a mere 47bux plus shipping. not a bad price.
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Re: anybody use these lca's and panhard?

Originally Posted by X-Ravin
Packaging was good



Panhard bar




LCA




All of them




I like them
any updates?
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Old Mar 10, 2010 | 11:47 PM
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Re: anybody use these lca's and panhard?

Won't have time to put them in until this weekend.
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Old Mar 12, 2010 | 12:39 PM
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Re: anybody use these lca's and panhard?

just ordered thier pan hard bar
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Old Mar 12, 2010 | 06:40 PM
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Re: anybody use these lca's and panhard?

I got the on car adj panhard. They were very fast with shipping.

Part looks very nice. Much better looking than the old lakewood I replaced.
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