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Old May 3, 2010 | 04:12 PM
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Ebay problems..bought me some lowering springs.

not a problem..but has anyone tried out these springs?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NEW-8...Q5fAccessories

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Old May 4, 2010 | 08:54 AM
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Re: Ebay problems..bought me some lowering springs.

Originally Posted by tpidude1
not a problem..but has anyone tried out these springs?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NEW-8...Q5fAccessories
hi , i bought a set like that .. great price....they are ok in the back and look good in red ,,,but the front for me is really too low....almost hit the inside fender without actually driving the car!...so i got some aluminium spacers for the front ....the only thing is ...i can't fit the coil back with these spacers!!!!...any help?
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Old May 4, 2010 | 09:26 AM
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Re: Ebay problems..bought me some lowering springs.

They look to be drop zone lowering springs and the are the same ride height. Drop zones PN# is also 3100. I just bought some off of ebay I believe they were $107 shipping included. They are also available here :

http://www.madracingconcepts.com/Springs/springs.htm
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Old May 4, 2010 | 09:35 AM
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Re: Ebay problems..bought me some lowering springs.

mine were 1.75' lower front and back ...really too low in front....the ebay ad says 1.75' lower on these too ....it's up to you....but i got those spacer to lift them up a bit...the coils and lifts won't go in.....i think i need a coil compressor....
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Old May 4, 2010 | 03:41 PM
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dropzone springs is exactly the same springs I think..they have the same specs also,so I think you have right..
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Old May 5, 2010 | 12:35 PM
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Re: Ebay problems..bought me some lowering springs.

They look like the ones made by Canuck Motorsports..
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Old May 5, 2010 | 12:49 PM
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Re: Ebay problems..bought me some lowering springs.

Originally Posted by micktroup2
They look like the ones made by Canuck Motorsports..
What they look like and what they are, are 2 different things.
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Old May 13, 2010 | 09:36 PM
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Re: Ebay problems..bought me some lowering springs.

I love how they talk about the company in the add and speak nothing of the springs themselves...
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Old May 14, 2010 | 04:23 AM
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Re: Ebay problems..bought me some lowering springs.

well I just got the springs and its some piece of sh..!springs was named DZSP3100..it raised my car 1" more than orig.back and in front they dropped down to the rubber insulators..I took them off and is going to throw them .this was some serious POS..next time I am going to buy me coilovers.Dont spend your money on this garbage
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Old May 14, 2010 | 10:56 AM
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Re: Ebay problems..bought me some lowering springs.

the springs need to break in... It takes a few days for the springs to lower to their specified height. it usually drops 1.5, 2 inches after a few days from when you first install them
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Old May 14, 2010 | 10:57 AM
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Re: Ebay problems..bought me some lowering springs.

Ill take em for price of shipping instead of you throwing them in the garbage. my springs are completely shot anyway
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Old May 14, 2010 | 11:05 AM
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Re: Ebay problems..bought me some lowering springs.

Originally Posted by tpidude1
well I just got the springs and its some piece of sh..!springs was named DZSP3100..it raised my car 1" more than orig.back and in front they dropped down to the rubber insulators..I took them off and is going to throw them .this was some serious POS..next time I am going to buy me coilovers.Dont spend your money on this garbage
the dropzone springs i got were nice because they look cool in red...but it ends there ,.,,the e-bay add claimed that they lower 1,75' front and back!..bull****!! ...when i installed them ,,,the front was basically rubbing on the ground!!....then the back actually went up 1' from where it was !!...i added 2.5' aluminium spacers that sit under the front coils ...in the back i cut off a tiny bit to lower them a bit ...now the car looks fine and handles really well...if i had known that they caused all this trouble , i would of installed stock moog springs or something like that...but at $89.99 for a set of 4 isn't expensive....
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Old May 14, 2010 | 11:09 AM
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Re: Ebay problems..bought me some lowering springs.

actually while installing my front struts, i noticed one strut would spring up and stay up with resistance,,,the other would just go down in the cylinder even after pulling it up...is that strut finished?...i installed brand new gas struts like 2 years ago and drove the car maybe 500 miles total!....what do you think? ...needs to be replaced...
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Old May 14, 2010 | 11:11 AM
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Re: Ebay problems..bought me some lowering springs.

don't the F-Bodys that are not base 3rd gens come with a different suspension than that of a base 3rd gen... I remember when I bought my springs there was a different listing for formula.... guy told me it was going to be lower...oh yeah... my point is.. you probably bought something that you already had, or something that is not meant for a non base 3rd gen..
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Old May 14, 2010 | 11:16 AM
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Re: Ebay problems..bought me some lowering springs.

Originally Posted by KNBlazer
don't the F-Bodys that are not base 3rd gens come with a different suspension than that of a base 3rd gen... I remember when I bought my springs there was a different listing for formula.... guy told me it was going to be lower...oh yeah... my point is.. you probably bought something that you already had, or something that is not meant for a non base 3rd gen..
well, my front coils were actually broken on both sides...coudn't see them were broken when on the car ,,but i noticed the car not handling well...so this is why i decided to changes all 4 coils...then once removing the front...i saw they were broken...
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Old May 14, 2010 | 11:47 AM
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Re: Ebay problems..bought me some lowering springs.

I just got done installing mine . Pics are here https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/susp...drop-zone.html

The front is low i will admit but thats what I wanted. But i dont have the front end problems you guys have.And I have a good 3-4 inches before the rubber bump stop hit in the front. The back in mine also droppped but not as much in the front. I just did the heater hose mod in the rear for a little more drop. Probably 1/4-1/2.

TPIDUDE are you sure your back springs werent worn out in the first place and the new springs just jacked it up cause the old ones where worn? And did you index the front springs or just through them in ? And are the struts shot ?
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Old May 14, 2010 | 02:35 PM
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Re: Ebay problems..bought me some lowering springs.

my old springs were from a formula and they were cutted 1 coil,in the front it was also cutted 1 coil.the new rear one i got was way higher than orig. see pics of before and after cutting.I cutted 3 coils of each to get it as I wanted.In front I measured them and the new vs. old were about 1 inch higher.I also noticed there were more coils on the new one..I mounted them the way they were supposed to mount and got the car on the wheels and it flatted out on the front..today I throwed them out and installed the old ones again..way better..
streetsports industries suck by the way..I had to send them 5 emails before they answered and it took them over 1 week to get the package shipped..I told them I was going to get the Ebay buyer protection to help me get the money back,and then they told me they would send the item.after that it took me three days to get the tracking # from them.I think I ended up sending them 10 emails and got three back..As I said before : POS
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Old May 14, 2010 | 02:50 PM
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Re: Ebay problems..bought me some lowering springs.

Originally Posted by tpidude1
my old springs were from a formula and they were cutted 1 coil,in the front it was also cutted 1 coil.the new rear one i got was way higher than orig. see pics of before and after cutting.I cutted 3 coils of each to get it as I wanted.In front I measured them and the new vs. old were about 1 inch higher.I also noticed there were more coils on the new one..I mounted them the way they were supposed to mount and got the car on the wheels and it flatted out on the front..today I throwed them out and installed the old ones again..way better..
streetsports industries suck by the way..I had to send them 5 emails before they answered and it took them over 1 week to get the package shipped..I told them I was going to get the Ebay buyer protection to help me get the money back,and then they told me they would send the item.after that it took me three days to get the tracking # from them.I think I ended up sending them 10 emails and got three back..As I said before : POS
Here is my car with orig.springs in front(cutted) and with new one in rear(cutted)
I have to admit that it is lowered way more than 1,75" but this is the way I wanted it.Next time I buy me some lowering springs it will be coilovers.
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Old May 14, 2010 | 03:18 PM
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Re: Ebay problems..bought me some lowering springs.

Well I dont know what to tell you. I compared my old springs to the new ones and they were both almost 2 inches shorter then the stock springs I had. The stock springs that you have in the pick dosent look right either.
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Old May 14, 2010 | 03:27 PM
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Re: Ebay problems..bought me some lowering springs.

like I wrote in my message above.they were cutted...
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Old May 14, 2010 | 03:46 PM
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Re: Ebay problems..bought me some lowering springs.

Originally Posted by tpidude1
like I wrote in my message above.they were cutted...
Its not that they were cut. My stock springs look like there wound tighter than yours and the springs are closer together.
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Old May 14, 2010 | 04:26 PM
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Re: Ebay problems..bought me some lowering springs.

First pic are my stock rear springs. Second pic are my stock front springs.
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Old May 14, 2010 | 04:34 PM
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Re: Ebay problems..bought me some lowering springs.

Those fronts were torched, very bad idea!
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Old May 14, 2010 | 05:13 PM
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Those fronts were torched, very bad idea!
Mine ?
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yes yours.
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Old May 14, 2010 | 05:16 PM
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yes yours.
Really mind explaining ? These were installed by firestone before I had a garage to work on my own stuff.
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Old May 14, 2010 | 05:20 PM
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Re: Ebay problems..bought me some lowering springs.

It might be the pic, but it looks like the ends are crooked like someone torched them. Could be just the pic though.

If you torch a spring it changes the spring steel's characteristics, the spring will become brittle and could break.

The only acceptable way to lower a car is to cut a spring and then to torch the last section, flip the spring and push down on it to flatten it. This will fix the last coil, make it inactive and leave a nice flat contact surface. The torched section of coil, being inactive will not be a problem, the rest of the unharmed spring will perform like required.
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Old May 14, 2010 | 06:33 PM
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Re: Ebay problems..bought me some lowering springs.

Originally Posted by Twin_Turbo
It might be the pic, but it looks like the ends are crooked like someone torched them. Could be just the pic though.

If you torch a spring it changes the spring steel's characteristics, the spring will become brittle and could break.

The only acceptable way to lower a car is to cut a spring and then to torch the last section, flip the spring and push down on it to flatten it. This will fix the last coil, make it inactive and leave a nice flat contact surface. The torched section of coil, being inactive will not be a problem, the rest of the unharmed spring will perform like required.
I guessing it might be the pic cause when the front springs broke in my car about 7 years ago I had firestone go through and put all new springs shocks and struts in the car. But i totally agree with what your saying about the torching and only cutting the spring.
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