ok, i cant stand the way my car takes bumps. i think its gonna fall apart every time a hit a railroad crossing. so i am getting sfc. well first ? is. i called some muffler shops and only one place will do them. the guy said 70 bucks. well he said he has never done them before. is it easy for him to screw them up? if they are welded on wrong can they not work?

my next ? is i am going to be buying the sfc from jegs. they are the jegster $179.99 82-92 camaro/firebird ones. they say 60% stronger then the comp. and clear stock exaught. so are these as good as shopn, alston, ect. jegs is a 30 min drive from here so if they are around the same quaility i will just go there. ok, one more. the jegster one are bolt-on/weld-on, are those anydifferent from strictly weld-on sfc? my car rides soooo bad i just want to make a wise choice.

i thought about bolting them on myself and the having the guy welding them. i just want to make sure if he does these that its not hard to do.

 

anyone??

 

i've saw the jegster stuff in the store, i wouldn't buy it, but it's your call not mine. i made my own and welded them on after doing a little research here and in catalogs. you want the car to sit as it does when it's sitting on the tires, not lifted in the air. i took some reading with an angle finder with the car sitting level. then jacked it up with jack stands under the control arms and rear end, used 1/2" ply wood for shims (my garage floor slopes to a drain) under the jack stand to get the same readings as before. it's not hard to weld in or to make them for that matter. took me a weekend to do it all, not working on it very much or very steady.

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Get something better than those. The best type is the ones that go all the way from front to rear just inside the door sills, not like the IRS/Alston ones.

Don't go with the low bid for installation, that's about the dumbest thing you can do if you're trying to get a job done right. Since time = money, by doing that you basically guarantee yourself that somebody will just slap them up on there with no attention to detail, and you'll probably end up with garbage.

Get a frame shop to put them on for you. They have measuring equipment and tools to make the car exactly square and level before they weld them. The job should cost around $125-150.

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If you do end up doing it yourself. It is crucial that the car be absolutely level. If it's not then you will start to run into problems, like doors not closing properly, if at all.

 

Mine were installed by a local chassis shop. They used 2" x 2" x 1/4" square steel.

 

thanks for your help guys, i think i'll just order sophns. i will definetly go to a collision shop with a frame rack also. i got to do something about my car taking bumps bad. i am to the point where i cant stand it. if the sfc dont work i'm gonna sell it. and maybe find me a hard top iroc. i'm not joking its terrible,i feel sorry for you guys if you car rides like mine.

 

I welded mine in myself. Borrowed a drive-on lift at a muffler shop. It's a piece of cake, and they shouldn't have much trouble even if it's their first time.

Like everyone else says, the most important thing is that the car is level, square, and the suspension is loaded when they're welded in.

Also, it sounds like you need to hunt down some rattles in the car. Most of them are going to be in the door and door-panel.

 

jza, yes alot of them are in my doors, they rattle bad over the bumps. how do i no if pins are bad? i dont want to replace them and it not help. do the sfc help the door stiffness?

 

First check the two adjustable guides for the glass. They're probably letting the window rattle around a good bit..

 

Hey man you know what they say hahah.... Handles like a train and rides like a dump truck HAHAH. I can't complain...This is my second T-top and you just have to keep up on the suspension parts!! Good luck and let us know if you like it.

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i'll definetly keep you guys posted. my sophns should be in by friday, i ordered 3 day ups. i called a race shop that builds engine/trans and the guys said he welds them in all the time, he said 75 bucks. so i'm going with him.