I finaly got my spohn front coil over kit, and rear coil over kit installed. Now i have to do some adjustments to get everything squared up and set up before i take it for its alignment. Anyone install this or a simular set-up?
Also anyone else have trouble trying to figure out which way the front strut mount brackets go? (the small thin one that looks like the factory bracket with the studs)

 

I have the front kit. I didnt have trouble figuring the triangle mount out though. I took the kit off my car because you wind up having very little room to adjust camber/caster. The spring would rub the pocket and pop on it every bump I hit. Eventually I would like to make a plate that keeps the spring in the wheel well and does not let it go past, this way I will have full camber/caster adjustment.

 

I cant seam to get it to fit anywhich way i put it. the bolt holes just dont all line up. Does it go on from the bottom like the factory?

What pocket was it rubbing? Im not sure if i understand where you were haveing the problem.

I had to elongate the holes in my strut tower when i had the eboch springs on so i could get the correct camber. It does not seam like camber adjustments are going to be a problem. I also have the adjustable lower control arms. I bought the whole tubular k/ coil over kit.

 

The lower control arms should help you with the alignment. My springs were rubbing the hole in the wheel well. The triangle piece went in from the bottom like factory. Maybe there is a left and right? Might try switching them.

 

Thats really strange. Was your car ever hit in the front? Was it on both sides? Mine look like there is plenty of clearence. I was a little concerned with the sping rubbing the bump out where the original spring pocket was but i have plenty of clearence.

The brackets are identical but are clearly off from making it to line up with any of the holes. Ill try to take pictures when i get home.

 

IIRC there is a left and right bracket, and there is a left and right mount. They only go together one way.

The problem with the front is the setup pretty much eliminates any camber/caster adjustment since the springs takes up most of the strut opening the the fender.

how did the rear work? both my sets left me will not enough shock travel and the shock would bottom out on larger bumps. had to make different lower mounts for them.

 

Well i just got it on the ground about two days ago. Right now its sitting at about stock ride hight. Im going to attempt to lower the car tonight.

I remember reading somewhere on here a while back about ppl not being able to get the stance they wanted b/c of coil bind. And a lot of them were maken diffrent lower shock mounts to get it to sit lower. Did you remove the factory bump stop? Is this why the shock would bottom out? I left the bump, just cut about 2 inches off of it.

So far i have not seen too many issuse. Ill try to post some pictures later. There are definatly tight clearences. But from what i see so far i should not have any issuses with getting the caster/camber at least close to factory spec. Like i said with the other springs i had to elongate the slots to get the aditional adjustment i needed.

I love the heavy dutyness of spohn stuff but latley i feel like they half *** there designs. Ive reading about so many little issuse with there products, that should be easly corrected. But thats another topic all together.

 

thats a problem i find too with some of their stuff.

at stock height i had only 1.5" or so of shock compression left. It would bottom out. I had to lower the bottom mounts on the rear to get the shocks to sit with adequate travel at stock ride height.

 

I think the car has been hit in the front, but I dont think that was the problem. The problem was that you have a 3.5" spring and a 5" opening. Doesnt leave much room to move it.

 

yeah now i understand where you were getting the interference. I guess i wont know how bad mine is till i align the front end.

As for those brackets i was initianly talking about, I cant get them to fit anywhich way. Only two of the three holes will line up. I found on the spohn web sight that there were two versions of these brackets stock, and they use the bolt pattern from the 87-up. My car is and 85, so how are the holes in my factory strut tower going to line up?

 

They say that becuase you have to have the newer strut mounts to line up with their triangle pieces. Since you have the new mounts, thats not the problem. My brother has an 85 TA and has Spohn strut mounts and the triangle pieces and they went on no problem.

 

Lol it figures, idk ive tried everyway i could. Its like a rubix cube. Do you have any pictures of them installed on his car?

Ive got three pieces; The strut mount, a reinforcment plate, and those triangle pieces. Ill be trying to set up the suspention hight tonight, i know ive been saying it but ill snap a few pictures tonight.

 

I dont have any pics right now, but I'll try to get one tonight.

 

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Here is the underside of my brothers 85 TA.

 

He does not have the reinforcment plate? I gues thats only with the coilover set up. Well anyway, Thanks for all the help. I was finaly able to figure it out. I took it all apart, and this time put the bolts through the triangle brackets first. Then sliped it up into place, and would'nt you know it lined up. I dont know why i had so much trouble getting this to work.

Now onto the front end adjustments, I see where everyone is running into a lack of coil adjustment. I only have about 15mm of adjustment left to lower the ride high of my car. In my opinion the spring both front and rear should be about one coil shorter. Theres got to be at least 100mm of adjustment to add hight or spring load. And that would bring it above stock ride hight.

Anyone have pictures of there modified rear shock mount, or even modified from set-up. Has anyone gone with different spring? i.e shorter, less coils, ect...

 

I changed from the Afco's 11''@175lbs, that came with my coilovers, to Hypercoil's 8''@650lbs to get 2.5'' more height adjustment. I've tried other springs at different rates but ended up going with this. As fore the rear I dont have rear coilover's but I do have Intrax lowering springs, but I use Bilstein's F4-B46-1021-HO shocks that are designed for lowered ride height, so no bottoming out.

 

 

 

 

I just went on spohns web sight and found there front springs are 12" long. there QA1 springs, at least thats what i got. I was looking in the summit catalog and found a set of 10" springs for about $40 bux. I might give this a try. Cheep enough.

I was not able to find the length of the rear springs. If i can put a shorter one on the rear also might be easier then relocating the mount. Not sure if the shock will be too long though? Ill have to check this out.

 

92 BBC Z, have you driven the car with those springs in? If so, isnt the ride incredibly stiff? My Spohn setup (for roadracing) came with 350lb springs. I know the front end of my car was much stiffer with those on than the Eibach sportlines I have now.

Recaro, you are correct that he doesnt have the plates because he didnt buy the coil-over setup. Also, the price in summit I'm pretty sure is for one spring. I could be wrong though.

 

Ive only driven it down the road. To me it actually felt fine, i had the sportlines on my car befor and they felt stiff to me. I have the #300 on there now.

I know its about 40 bux a spring. The hard part is figuring out the spring rate i want. I wish i had balance scales!!!!

 

Sorry, I was asking 92 BBC if hes driven his car. He has 600 pound springs on. Thas why I was wondering.

 

Well actually I have 8''@650lbs on the car now,(the pic show's a pair of 10''@600lbs, that were on the, car)and to answer your question, no, not yet. But the 600's felt about as stiff as my Z-51 optioned vette, but i'll have to wait and see if the changes make it to much for the street. Also my strut's are Koni adjustable, and the **** is set for comfort not the stiffer sport setting, I'm not sure if that is helping dampen some of the stiffness, but I like to think it is LOL. The BBC is about 250 heaver than a fully dressed L98.

 

Didnt think about that. I had 350lb springs but I also have a fully gutted engine compartment, battery in the trunk, no AC anything under the hood or dash, tubular K-member, and aluminum heads so my front end is probably a decent amount lighter than stock.