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Old Nov 5, 2010 | 05:41 PM
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What are some good suspension upgrades?

im looking at upgrading my suspension so far im getting these from tds wonderbar, 34 mm front sway bar, and their 23 mm rear sway bar, and maybe their lLE end links, im looking into getting some gr2 shocks, and some new springs if i can find them for my v6. what else should i add to the list? im thinking about subfram connectors but im not sure.
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Old Nov 5, 2010 | 05:43 PM
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Re: What are some good suspension upgrades?

subframe connectors
lower control arms/panhard bar
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Old Nov 5, 2010 | 06:17 PM
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Re: What are some good suspension upgrades?

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subframe connectors
lower control arms/panhard bar
front or rear panhard bars?, also where can i pick up some lower control arms?, i was also just looking at torque arms aswell, would this be a good upgrade?
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Old Nov 5, 2010 | 06:37 PM
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Re: What are some good suspension upgrades?

you've only got a panhard in the back; its what keeps your rear centered. if you're planning on lowering the car, get an adjustable one.

sfc's should be top on the list as previously mentioned

check to make sure your bushings are in good shape, as there's a good chance they could be a bit worn out. energy suspension makes some good poly ones for the a arms, along with the rest under there.

torque arm's not going to be something you need until you start getting some serious hp/tq numbers. if anything, you can get a poly bushing here too
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Old Nov 5, 2010 | 06:38 PM
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Re: What are some good suspension upgrades?

Originally Posted by evilemokid94
im looking at upgrading my suspension so far im getting these from tds wonderbar, 34 mm front sway bar, and their 23 mm rear sway bar, and maybe their lLE end links, im looking into getting some gr2 shocks, and some new springs if i can find them for my v6. what else should i add to the list? im thinking about subfram connectors but im not sure.
>>Do your homework better than I did<< I spent a good part of the summer redoing my whole front end suspension on my 91' WS6. Having the Formula I have the thicker front sway bar so I kept that and replaced all of the following myself: GR-2 struts, end link bolts/bushings, control arm bushings, control arm bushings and the ball joints..... I replaced everything up front and she is better but for all the time and money I don't feel it was worth the grief! Spend the extra money.......... In short the GR-2's are not as good as I had heard!
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Old Nov 5, 2010 | 07:08 PM
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Re: What are some good suspension upgrades?

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>>Do your homework better than I did<< I spent a good part of the summer redoing my whole front end suspension on my 91' WS6. Having the Formula I have the thicker front sway bar so I kept that and replaced all of the following myself: GR-2 struts, end link bolts/bushings, control arm bushings, control arm bushings and the ball joints..... I replaced everything up front and she is better but for all the time and money I don't feel it was worth the grief! Spend the extra money.......... In short the GR-2's are not as good as I had heard!
did you get the adjustable ones?
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Old Nov 5, 2010 | 07:11 PM
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Re: What are some good suspension upgrades?

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you've only got a panhard in the back; its what keeps your rear centered. if you're planning on lowering the car, get an adjustable one.

sfc's should be top on the list as previously mentioned

check to make sure your bushings are in good shape, as there's a good chance they could be a bit worn out. energy suspension makes some good poly ones for the a arms, along with the rest under there.

torque arm's not going to be something you need until you start getting some serious hp/tq numbers. if anything, you can get a poly bushing here too
as far as lowering the car thats a no go, i like the height now, dont plan on changing it.
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Old Nov 5, 2010 | 07:26 PM
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Re: What are some good suspension upgrades?

Originally Posted by evilemokid94
front or rear panhard bars?, also where can i pick up some lower control arms?,
the lower control arms and panhard bar can be bought from UMI, BMR, Spohn, etc

they sell relocation brackets for the lower control arms. it is said that they are supposed to help traction.
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Old Nov 5, 2010 | 07:39 PM
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Re: What are some good suspension upgrades?

Originally Posted by evilemokid94
did you get the adjustable ones?
I could be wrong but I'm almost certain only the rear GR-2's are adjustable..... Only revamped the whole front where I can feel 90% of the problem. No I did not get adjustable front struts........
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Old Nov 5, 2010 | 07:43 PM
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Re: What are some good suspension upgrades?

Originally Posted by bitchin_buick
I could be wrong but I'm almost certain only the rear GR-2's are adjustable..... Only revamped the whole front where I can feel 90% of the problem. No I did not get adjustable front struts........
your correct the rears are the only adjustable
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Old Nov 5, 2010 | 07:45 PM
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Re: What are some good suspension upgrades?

Originally Posted by Convoy25
the lower control arms and panhard bar can be bought from UMI, BMR, Spohn, etc

they sell relocation brackets for the lower control arms. it is said that they are supposed to help traction.
TDS wouldnt happen to have them would they? that is where i plan on getting almost all my stuff from.
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Old Nov 5, 2010 | 11:10 PM
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Re: What are some good suspension upgrades?

I see no need for lower control arms on a V6 car that won't be lowered any and won't be raced aggresively (V6 kinda negates that).

Also no need for a panhard bar unless your's is bent or you are lowering the car - another waste of cash.

As mentioned, no need for a torque arm either, you ain't making any torque with a V6!

Spend your money first and foremost on ball joints, tie rod ends, centerlinks, idler arm, then sway bar bushings and end links, the wonderbar, shocks/struts and springs, then SFC's to tie it all up.

Adding a bunch of aftermarket goods to 20+ year old wearable parts is like putting a new collar on an old dog - he ain't gonna fetch any better!
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Old Nov 6, 2010 | 06:59 AM
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Re: What are some good suspension upgrades?

Originally Posted by evilemokid94
TDS wouldnt happen to have them would they? that is where i plan on getting almost all my stuff from.
Perhaps a search of their site--and other after market sites (many of which are sponsors to this board) would provide the info/products you're looking for.

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Old Nov 6, 2010 | 03:38 PM
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Re: What are some good suspension upgrades?

Originally Posted by camaronewbie
I see no need for lower control arms on a V6 car that won't be lowered any and won't be raced aggresively (V6 kinda negates that).

Also no need for a panhard bar unless your's is bent or you are lowering the car - another waste of cash.

As mentioned, no need for a torque arm either, you ain't making any torque with a V6!

Spend your money first and foremost on ball joints, tie rod ends, centerlinks, idler arm, then sway bar bushings and end links, the wonderbar, shocks/struts and springs, then SFC's to tie it all up.

Adding a bunch of aftermarket goods to 20+ year old wearable parts is like putting a new collar on an old dog - he ain't gonna fetch any better!
im not sticking with my v6 forever, im already planning on a 383 build. and this car will be put on the track from time to time so i will need these upgrades, im just doing them now so they are out of the way.
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