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Old Nov 25, 2001 | 11:53 AM
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Installed 91 TA 9 bolt in a 87 IROC

everything bolted right up, but, now rear rotors are 11.66" and fronts are 10.50", so what new problems have I created for myself?
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Old Nov 25, 2001 | 01:46 PM
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From: 51°N 114°W, 3500'
Car: 87 IROC L98
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Did you originally have rear rotors?
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Old Nov 25, 2001 | 02:02 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Stephen 87 IROC:
Did you originally have rear rotors?</font>
YES!

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Old Nov 25, 2001 | 03:20 PM
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Shouldn't be any problems. It depends on the size of the piston in the new rear caliper compared to the size of the piston in the old style caliper. A larger piston will produce more force and more braking. There's a slight possibility of the rear brakes doing more braking now than the front but I doubt you'd notice any difference. The size of the rotor means nothing. It's the surface area of the piston that will determine if you have any problems or not.
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Old Nov 25, 2001 | 11:06 PM
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First, 91 uses a 10-bolt, not a 9-bolt, and second, thats normal for 89-92 4-wheel disc brake cars to have the rear larger than the front.

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Old Nov 26, 2001 | 04:11 AM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Kevin91Z:
First, 91 uses a 10-bolt, not a 9-bolt, and second, thats normal for 89-92 4-wheel disc brake cars to have the rear larger than the front.

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Well, I guess the boneyard mis-identified the year of this 9 bolt I installed.

Anyway, the disks that came with this 87 IROC were 10.50 front & rear, and after I installed this newer(?)rear I ran into braking problems "hard braking", then noticed the rotor sizes were different.

I did some research and found a note on Bear Brakes web site, to which, they made note; "that larger rotors on the rear will cause problems with too much brake in rear."


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Old Nov 26, 2001 | 06:39 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by PALM BEACH IROC-ER:
Well, I guess the boneyard mis-identified the year of this 9 bolt I installed.

Anyway, the disks that came with this 87 IROC were 10.50 front & rear, and after I installed this newer(?)rear I ran into braking problems "hard braking", then noticed the rotor sizes were different.

I did some research and found a note on Bear Brakes web site, to which, they made note; "that larger rotors on the rear will cause problems with too much brake in rear."

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i wish i had that problem when i changed over to 89+ Setup. instead i hardly have any rear brake bias.......LOL



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Old Nov 27, 2001 | 10:19 AM
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I did that swap, 1989 9-bolt onto my 1987.
No problems with the 10.5 ft & 11.655 rears,
mine work great. One question did you use the Proportioning Valve from the 89 disc set-up??? The 87 and 89 valve may be different,
I would check that out.
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Old Nov 27, 2001 | 03:45 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Z28DJP1987:
I did that swap, 1989 9-bolt onto my 1987.
No problems with the 10.5 ft & 11.655 rears,
mine work great. One question did you use the Proportioning Valve from the 89 disc set-up??? The 87 and 89 valve may be different,
I would check that out.
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I did check out the actual rotor area on both disks and found the fronts while smaller do have more surface area under the pads than the larger rears do!

I have never changed the valve, which one should I look for?

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Old Nov 27, 2001 | 04:06 PM
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If you did not use the 1989 Proportioning
valve that could be your problem. All the posts I have read "said use the prop valve
from 89 rear set up" . Ask that question and see what replies you get. There is nothing wrong with the sizes of the front &
rear rotors.
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