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Old Mar 23, 2011 | 11:48 PM
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Wondering what id need to do?

Bare with me on this cause so far it is just an idea. I was thinking of dropping a 427 down into a 3rd gen camaro (kind of a weird project if the cost wouldn't kill me) and I was told id have to upgrade my suspension so that it could handle the weight, which I had figured on. Now is there and way anyone could tell me if id have to redo the hole thing from the a-arms up or would thicker springs and a few other minor changes work, and would I more than likely have to have it all custom made or would I be able to buy it all from some where? Any help at all would be appreciated.
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Old Mar 24, 2011 | 12:09 AM
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Re: Wondering what id need to do?

i'd go with thicker springs and better struts. it should handle the engine weight just fine. ive got another 84 i just dropped a 454 into and it is handling fine with truck front springs and new stock struts. i love it
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Old Mar 24, 2011 | 07:34 PM
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Re: Wondering what id need to do?

heavier springs and bars, and good struts would work.

you may be able to get away with using the MOOG Iroc replaement front springs. they tend to make stock 350 cars sit a few inches higher, so with the added weight of the big block, it "may" work out, and be cheap.

other option is a set of weight jacks and a set of heavy rate springs from GroundControl.
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Old Mar 25, 2011 | 07:35 PM
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Re: Wondering what id need to do?

427 is no different from any other big block, except for being alot weaker (smaller) than alot of other CHEEEEPER ones. I.e., you spend more, but get less. The mark of a n00b.

Read the big block "sticky" in the Engine Swap forum. If it leaves anything unanswered, come back and re-ask. That's what stickies are for: so the same questions don't have to keep getting the same answers over and over and over. It's all right there.
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Old Mar 29, 2011 | 06:10 PM
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Re: Wondering what id need to do?

Originally Posted by ty001
Bare with me on this...
I'll keep my clothes on, thank you.

Consider a stroked small-block instead of caveman tech big blocks.
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Old Mar 29, 2011 | 06:42 PM
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Re: Wondering what id need to do?

Originally Posted by kevinc
I'll keep my clothes on, thank you.

Consider a stroked small-block instead of caveman tech big blocks.
big blocks are superior in every way, besides weight, to small blocks, not exactly caveman technology. you can stroke the bigblock too and make it bigger yet.
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Old Mar 30, 2011 | 09:48 PM
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Re: Wondering what id need to do?

Originally Posted by //<86TA>\\
big blocks are superior in every way, besides weight, to small blocks, not exactly caveman technology. you can stroke the bigblock too and make it bigger yet.
You've posted great info on suspension and braking, and you're in my neck of the NJ woods, so I'll go along with this a bit...but that's a very broad statement to make.

I'll assume you're not including the LSx gen-3 & 4 engines in that claim, and just comparing BBC vs. traditional SBC.

Sure, the BBC can be built to significantly more displacement than the SBC...so if max cubes is the goal, the BBC wins.

BBC has more reciprocating mass to make similar displacement the SBC can reliably make, up to the SBC's limit. Unless you're spending cubic dollars on super-light reciprocating bits.

In what way other than max displacement capability is the BBC superior?
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Old Mar 31, 2011 | 07:29 PM
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Re: Wondering what id need to do?

Originally Posted by kevinc
You've posted great info on suspension and braking, and you're in my neck of the NJ woods, so I'll go along with this a bit...but that's a very broad statement to make.

I'll assume you're not including the LSx gen-3 & 4 engines in that claim, and just comparing BBC vs. traditional SBC.
yeah, im not comparing to the lsx, since they are not a sbc or bbc. they dont have a big or small block like the gen1's.

bbc head design is vastly superior to a gen1 sbc, even certain stock bbc head castings will outflow most, if not all aftermarket sbc heads.

lsx engines are a different animal, and have quite a few adantages over the older big blocks, but still lack some of the brute torque of a big block
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