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Old Aug 22, 2011 | 05:02 PM
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lowering springs?

Hey everyone I was thinking of dropping my 89 camaro using the eibach kit 1.6" in the front 1.3" rear . My question is can I just install the springs or do I have to get the adjustable panhard rod, torque arms too. what are the positives of using just the spring compared to changing the whole suspension.

Has any one just used the springs ? How do you like it and how does it drive? Does it bottom out ?.
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Old Aug 22, 2011 | 05:47 PM
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Re: lowering springs?

you dont need any of those parts unless you have issues after the install. the axle may be close enough to centered after lowering to not need the panhard, if the pinion angle is still good, no need for the TA.

Good shocks and struts should be installed though.
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Old Aug 22, 2011 | 05:52 PM
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Re: lowering springs?

Ok awesome. I was looking to get the kyb-gr2 are those any good or should I get something else
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Old Aug 22, 2011 | 06:38 PM
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Re: lowering springs?

I'd have an adjustable panhard bar ready to install. I used the 1" Eibach drop springs, and I needed one - so 1.6 inches is definitely going to need one.
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Old Aug 22, 2011 | 07:42 PM
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Re: lowering springs?

So how many panhard bar do I need then?
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Old Aug 23, 2011 | 04:55 AM
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Re: lowering springs?

Just one - Edelbrock makes a nice one for $100
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Old Aug 23, 2011 | 05:52 AM
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Re: lowering springs?

Originally Posted by ctoledo0834
Ok awesome. I was looking to get the kyb-gr2 are those any good or should I get something else
KYB's are ok at best, but won't last very long. The set I have sucks. Period. Even a couple years (only 2-3k) after new. Spend a little bit more, and you'll be happier.

Keep an eye out on ebay and CL- right now in my area there's an adjustable panhard from HP Motorsports for $25.
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Old Aug 23, 2011 | 10:50 AM
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Re: lowering springs?

Thanks guys for all the help.

So I only need one panhrd bar is it for the front or the rear ? And what side should I install it on ?
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Old Aug 23, 2011 | 11:10 AM
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Re: lowering springs?

Originally Posted by ctoledo0834
Thanks guys for all the help.

So I only need one panhrd bar is it for the front or the rear ? And what side should I install it on ?
Its above the rear axle. It goes from the driver side on the body to the passenger side on the axle, you really don't have a choice..
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Old Aug 23, 2011 | 01:21 PM
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Re: lowering springs?

I have Eibachs, don't like em, going back to stock. Ride too harsh, or maybe roads suck all over, limits load carrying, rubs tires on harsh bridge aprons. Rears you can put in with no tools just have your heaviest buddy stand on the rear drum with the wheel removed and the old ones slide out and the new ones will slide in but the fronts require spring compressors.
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Old Aug 25, 2011 | 04:48 PM
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Re: lowering springs?

Ok thanks
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Old Aug 25, 2011 | 10:18 PM
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Re: lowering springs?

I actually enjoyed the ride of the Eibach springs over my Intrax setup, but like the look and handling of the Intrax more than the Eibach. My Intrax setup is ROUGH. I don't know if better shocks/struts would help my current setup, but the Eibachs had a much sportier feel over stock without being bonejarring like Intrax IMHO. Eibachs weren't low enough ride height.
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Old Aug 26, 2011 | 06:32 AM
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Re: lowering springs?

Originally Posted by ctoledo0834
So how many panhard bar do I need then?
Since you're new to suspension, perhaps the following link (which is a sticky) will school you a bit with info and pics:

https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/susp...nsion-how.html

JamesC
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Old Aug 29, 2011 | 06:14 PM
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Re: lowering springs?

I got the pro kit with Kyb's on my car(kinda wish I did go with a different shock but whatever for now). I do not have very many miles on them but it rides really nice. The car only sat MAYBE 1/4-1/2 inch lower than my stock springs and blown out shocks. Also I have an adj. panhard, lower control arms and LCARB's, and the spohn spherical upper strut mounts.
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Old Aug 29, 2011 | 06:20 PM
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Re: lowering springs?

Originally Posted by Pepsicola
I got the pro kit with Kyb's on my car(kinda wish I did go with a different shock but whatever for now). I do not have very many miles on them but it rides really nice. The car only sat MAYBE 1/4-1/2 inch lower than my stock springs and blown out shocks. Also I have an adj. panhard, lower control arms and LCARB's, and the spohn spherical upper strut mounts.

Thanks for the info, ill be looking in to other shock instead of the kyb's
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Old Aug 29, 2011 | 06:36 PM
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Re: lowering springs?

Originally Posted by JamesC
Since you're new to suspension, perhaps the following link (which is a sticky) will school you a bit with info and pics:

https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/susp...nsion-how.html

JamesC

Thanks for the links its great, good info
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