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Old Feb 2, 2012 | 11:45 PM
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Suspension Ajusting

Kinda a noob question, I am lowering my car 1" and was advised to get an adjustable panhard rod. I plan on getting new lower control arms and lower control arm relocation brackets as well. My question is what am I adjusting to Panhard rod to? and if I get new LCAs I noticed they have adjustable ones, what do i adjust those to? and I seen adjustable wonderbars...what would I adjust the wonder bar too? I honestly dont know what the need for adjusting is and what I would adjust these components to.

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Old Feb 3, 2012 | 06:07 AM
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Re: Suspension Ajusting

No you don't "need" adj LCAs; although the argument could be made, if you buy anything, might as well be adj. But this is one of those things where if you have to ask, you've already defined that don't "need" it; you'll just "adjust" them to the stock length anyway.

PHB is a different matter. That, you adjust to center the rear to the car EXACTLY at its new ride height.

You might want to consider LCARBs and a PHBRB.
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Old Feb 3, 2012 | 06:19 AM
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Should the rear end be out of square, so to speak, with the front, adjustable LCA's would eliminate the issue. That said, I'd guess most cars are within spec.

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Old Feb 3, 2012 | 10:36 AM
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Re: Suspension Ajusting

Originally Posted by SpaclySprocket
Kinda a noob question, I am lowering my car 1" and was advised to get an adjustable panhard rod. I plan on getting new lower control arms and lower control arm relocation brackets as well. My question is what am I adjusting to Panhard rod to? and if I get new LCAs I noticed they have adjustable ones, what do i adjust those to? and I seen adjustable wonderbars...what would I adjust the wonder bar too? I honestly dont know what the need for adjusting is and what I would adjust these components to.

1.Panhard rod
2.LCA
3.Wonderbar
The Panhard bar should be adjusted to perfectly center the rear tires in the fender wells. We hang a string and nut off the fender lip and measure to the tire. Turn the adjuster until the two measurements are equal.

LCA's. As mentioned above, if you're staying stock, no "need " to adjust. If you're tinkering with new diff housings or just perfecting things, adjust to square the rear in the car. Whether that be at home or at the alignment shop opens up a big can o' measurement worms...

Wonderbar. Ours are solid. Stock was solid. I'd imagine adding some preload might help but it's difficult to measure. The difference between having one and not would be bigger than having one and having an adjustable one.

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Old Feb 3, 2012 | 10:57 AM
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Re: Suspension Ajusting

Thanks, I Orderd the UMI wonderbar, LCAS, and relocation Bracket, would have gotten your panhard bar as well but I had already have one. Thanks.
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If you're tinkering with new diff housings or just perfecting things, adjust to square the rear in the car. Whether that be at home or at the alignment shop opens up a big can o' measurement worms...
How so?

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Old Feb 3, 2012 | 11:58 AM
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Re: Suspension Ajusting

For many customers we find non-adjustables to be a fantastic option. Some customers decide they want adjustables then have trouble deciding how to measure whether the rear is square in the car. When replacing a factory rear with an aftermarket rear, sometimes the lower brackets aren't perfect. The location of those brackets and the mounting points depends on where they weld, how they weld, etc.

Alignment shops can measure this and perform the adjustment. Usually it's thrust angle. At home it's kind of difficult. Where do you measure from? How do you measure? Are you comfortable with a string? Do you have a laser alignment gauge? As an example, I aligned many a race car with string, jackstands and a $5 laser pen.

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Alignment shops can measure this and perform the adjustment.
For me, that's the only option (because I'm **** in such matters).

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Old Feb 3, 2012 | 01:30 PM
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Re: Suspension Ajusting

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For me, that's the only option (because I'm **** in such matters).

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I agree James. My cousin is an alignment tech at a local tire shop. He's also a crew chief on a dirt late model. This combination means he's one of those alignment techs that settles for nothing less than perfection. He shoots for the middle and not just for the green area. Those kinds of guys return a perfect car when they're done.

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Old Feb 3, 2012 | 09:29 PM
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Re: Suspension Ajusting

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I agree James. My cousin is an alignment tech at a local tire shop. He's also a crew chief on a dirt late model. This combination means he's one of those alignment techs that settles for nothing less than perfection. He shoots for the middle and not just for the green area. Those kinds of guys return a perfect car when they're done.

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I wish all alignment shops had people like this. I've seen too many "after" charts that aren't even close to being perfect.
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