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Old Apr 29, 2013 | 11:07 PM
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Front coil spring ?

Just wondering if anybody know the spring rate of stock IROC coil off the top of there head?

I don't have a third gen, but I do have a set of coils out of my old 86 iroc.
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Old Apr 30, 2013 | 08:31 AM
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Re: Front coil spring ?

Hard to say, depends on the spring code, car's options, etc. Most were 550lb/in front, 130 lb/in rear. Unless they came off of a super low mileage car they've probably sagged and fatigued some over time.
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Old Apr 30, 2013 | 11:48 AM
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Re: Front coil spring ?

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Hard to say, depends on the spring code, car's options, etc. Most were 550lb/in front, 130 lb/in rear. Unless they came off of a super low mileage car they've probably sagged and fatigued some over time.
550 is it? I figured they would be alot higher rate than that. Guess I'm better of with my stock S10 coils at that rate... LOL
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Old Apr 30, 2013 | 12:16 PM
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Re: Front coil spring ?

Moog sells replacement springs at like $50 a pop and you can get 700 lb/in rates and other companies sell similarly priced springs with even higher rates. Unless your springs are super low mileage (<50k miles) I'd sell them to some kid trying to do a v8 swap on the cheap or scrap them. Not a lot of benefit/ demand to old worn out springs when you can get two brand new ones and some stickers for around $100
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Old Apr 30, 2013 | 01:03 PM
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Re: Front coil spring ?

Originally Posted by midnightfirews6
Moog sells replacement springs at like $50 a pop and you can get 700 lb/in rates and other companies sell similarly priced springs with even higher rates. Unless your springs are super low mileage (<50k miles) I'd sell them to some kid trying to do a v8 swap on the cheap or scrap them. Not a lot of benefit/ demand to old worn out springs when you can get two brand new ones and some stickers for around $100
Stickers are good. LOL

I've been told some stock S10 coils are upwards of 700lb/in. (707 and 748 to be exact).

I'll probably just use my stock coils and cut 'em to get the ride height I want.

Unless F bodies have totally junk springs, I can't see 'em sagging alot. I'm sure they will sag some and lose some strength, but not alot.
My old 93 C1500 has 454+ thousand miles on it and it might sit an inch lower than stock, (not counting the lowering spindles). Granted it's not a corner carver or anything close, but it does have twice the miles on it that a normal high milage car would have. LOL

That 100 bucks will buy me a roll pan..... LOL
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Re: Front coil spring ?

707 and 748 to be exact
No, not exactly...

Actually, those are the rates out of the Moog catalog for the 5662 and 5664 springs, which do indeed happen to fit S trucks. (and F bodies, and A & G bodies, and prolly a whole lot more besides) But they're not "stock" in anything.

The IROCs usually measured nearer 450 by the dinking-around method; (set heavy stuff on it and see what happened) but after however many years, who knows how much they'd lost.
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Re: Front coil spring ?

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No, not exactly...

Actually, those are the rates out of the Moog catalog for the 5662 and 5664 springs, which do indeed happen to fit S trucks. (and F bodies, and A & G bodies, and prolly a whole lot more besides) But they're not "stock" in anything.

The IROCs usually measured nearer 450 by the dinking-around method; (set heavy stuff on it and see what happened) but after however many years, who knows how much they'd lost.
Actually the S10 coils figure up mathmatically as 754 lbs/in.

Good little read here;
http://www.bluecoilspring.com/rate.htm

Found that while searching for how to count active coils.
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Re: Front coil spring ?

For a stock S10? All of the ones I ever drove rode pretty soft imo and there's a lot less weight acting on the front end with the little iron duke or the 60* v6 than there would be with a v8 which wasn't a factory option.
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Re: Front coil spring ?

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For a stock S10? All of the ones I ever drove rode pretty soft imo and there's a lot less weight acting on the front end with the little iron duke or the 60* v6 than there would be with a v8 which wasn't a factory option.
That was exactly what I was thinkin myself. That's why I kept these IROC coils layin around all these years. LOL

But according to the number the S10 coils would be great cheap lowering coils for an F body.
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