here goes, i leave for lunch to go home for a quick bite, pi$$ed at the world. i dont know about yall, but floggin the hell out of a car is my perfect idea of anger managment. so i head down the interstate, reach my favorite 2.5m stretch, drop ack in 4th at 70 mph, ran her up to 5300, hit 5th and blaaaahhh. then she starts to pick up after i feather around with the throttle a bit. at 100 it just cut out hard like a rev limiter. so i went ahead and just mashed it. finally maxed out about 110 after about 3 more of these hard cut outs. thing is, it does keep pulling after these,"cut outs". hard enough to keep the needle barried for a fwe seconds after letting off. so it is passing 110mph. then,luckily, i got to race 2 cars on my way back. a early to mid 90s prelude(killed), and a 93-94 v6 maro. both had exhuast system upgrades apparently. thats how i knew the maro was a 6, you know, the hollow potato sound. anyway i managed to hlod my own with him at first cause we were both in high gear around 97mph rounding a nice turn. obviously the guy was a total tool and cant handle twisties, as i almost ended up in his trunk at 100mph, cause he couldnt hold his around the corner and i, being the mount. road carver that i am, was still accellerating around the turn. to end this, the guy pissed me off, slowed me down, grabbed forth before i could, i got over zealous, mashed the throttle, bogged, and got left. 350 injectors suck on a car not tuned for them. sorry for the long post, but man i feel better now that ive vented. now, the question, why is my engine cutting out the way it does? it did it a few times with the 305 injectors too. and i just bought a AC delco ignition modual. whats wrong???

 

well the stock chip has a fuel cut out at 110... plus you got an old camaro that probobly has lots o miles... plus they don't pull very well after about 4500 rpms

 

it does it long before 110mph. even did it once in 4th gear at about 4800(85mph or so). i know they stop pulling after 4500, but if i dont shift higher, than it falls way out of its power band.157000+miles

 

should i post on a different board for this one?

 

well you might think you are out of the power band but the car might pull harder if you shift sooner!!! my car lost too much power after 3500 rpms or so b4 the cam swap... you need to shift sooner.

 

I little off the topic. But why did you say your pefomance clutch is a joke. I have centerforce im happy with, throw out bearings a little nosiy but thats easy fix.

 

mines not a center force. it is a joke! replacing it as we speak!

 

I would link all the bogging do to the 350 injectors. Running rich in a high MAP will almost always cause that.
I know you said it did it with the 305 injectors, but are you sure you weren't just hitting the speed limiter with them in?

 

Also, what gears are you running out of curiosity? 4,800rpms at 85mph in 4th seems like a lot. I run 3.73s and cross the quarter in fourth at around 5,000rpm at 105mph. Just curious because no gears are listed in your sig, and if your rpms are that high your clutch could be slipping really bad.

 

havent had a chance to reply. ive been trying to fix my tranny. long story there. lets just say everything that has to do with the clutch including the clutch is now brand new. as for gears it has stock gears prolly what ever the most pop. ones were. i know im not hitting the shutoff point cause its done that in 4th gear a couple of times now.(cut out) right about now im ready to push the damn thing in the river cause i still cant get the clutch to disengage!!! well im leaving now to go and try one more time before it goes to my dads mech. for a custom slave cylinder rod-bout 1/2-3/4 inch longer. its all i can think of. well, me and every mech. ive talked too.

 

do you have an auto or manual?

 

He's got a 5 speed

 

not him, you.

 

I would assume 3.08 gears as well. But his clutch is slipping, which would be why his rpms are so high in 4th at 85mph

 

I have a t-56. Sorry bout that. 4th gear is 1:1 in both the 5 and 6 speed though

 

ah ok, no problem, I was asking because I am still debating on going with 3.42's or 3.73's. From my estimates, my car should be trapping around 104-107 mph when I get done with her and I wasn't sure which gear to go with without overrevving at the traps. I have an auto and with the converter slippage, I think 3.42's would prolly be better for me.

 

Yeah, you're probably right. Like I said with my 3.73s, I trap at 105mph and not quite at 5,000rpm (hard to tell-stupid tach is off a little), however I run a little larger tire diameter (255/60s). I like 3.42s for autos, when I had the 3.73s and auto, it spun up too fast in 1st (shorter gear ratio than manual) and reved too high on the highway for my liking

 

All those mod's and you haven't changed the chip Could be your fuel pump is having a hard time keeping up the pressure at a high rpm over a extened period of time. It's not the speed your running It's length of time your running at WOT. Need to check pressure at WOT and see if it's falling off. Have you changed the fuel filter lately?

 

I never knew the stock chip cut out at 110????? What's the best chip (aftermarket, not custom) there is to replace the stock without frying the ECM or severly screwing you the engine? I've only got mine to about 108 and it was still pulling before my 3 mile span of bridge ran out. I wish I had a road around here I could nail it on and open her up....not to mention cooking some hondas, kudos for embarring the prelude nick harmon!!! Sorry to go off topic and thanks for any answers!
Lc

 

A lot of guys have used chips from tbichips.com I haven't heard anything bad about them so far. (found site in searchalot.com) he removes the speed limiter adds timing, and changes the fuel curve. $30.00 is a pretty good price! there is a speed limiter bypass article in the tech section on this site also(3rd gen) but I think it would be easier to just get the chip and swap them out.

 

I cannot say enough good things about tbichips.com. Brian does all of the chip burning and is extremely helpful and communicates really well. He's really an awesome person to work with and his aftermarket chips are really inexpensive and worth it. He has premade chips that are pretty much like sqzbox said and are really good for close to stock cars. He also does custom chips and will work with you to get it running to it's potential.

As many people will tell you, burning your own chips is the best way because to get it exactly where you want it, you may need to burn a hundred different chips. But if you're like me and time and money are a factor, tbichips is the way to go.

 

no, the filter has not been changed yet, and now since ive spent alot of time under the car, i noticed that it has not been changed for a long time. what you said sounds perfectly logical, so i will get one asap and let you know if it works, once i get the damn clutch to disengage so i can drive the POS! thanks for the input. its amazing how often a person will forget the small stuff when it comes to trouble shooting a problem as such.BTW, my clutch was slipping, it has not disengaged all the way since i bought it come to find out. oh yeah, i have not installed the valvetrain components yet, or the manifold and MSD box. so with the exception of the tbi mods, injectors, and coil the car is stock so i have not had a chip burned as of yet.

 

To be exact, it cuts out at 112. I know all too well I would contact tbichips if you want to remove it.

 

tbichips.com says it cuts out at 108 with the stock chip.....mine was still pulling strong at 108 so I don't think that is it. What, other than no speed limiter, could I expect to gain power wise? I have K&N and open exhuast....plan on doing headers and open element very soon. Otherwise, completely stock. $30 bucks for a chip....I plan on getting one very soon.
Lc

 

I hope it didn't take ya 3 miles to get up to 108mph........I wouldn't really call that pulling strong lol
As far as the chip cutoff goes, it is right around 110, 108, 112mph...whatever close enough. Tire size will effect the speedo reading, as well as age...I'm going on my third cluster now.

Do a search and you'll find many mods to do to improve your cars performance.

 

I bought a used chip from a guy that was a Jet Stage II. The car has about 185K miles on it.

I went to visit a friend in Springfield IL, took my wife's car ('93 MX6) there to replace a CV boot. Then later that night, my wife met me there with my '92. A couple of days later when we were leaving, we had 2-1/2 hours to get her to work, and we were 2-1/2 hours from home.

On a nice flat country road I was ahead of her and had it floored for about 2 miles. Of course my speedo only goes to 110, but hers goes to 140.

She kept up with me no problem. Then we got to a stop sign and she pulled up next to me and said "I was going 125 and not catching up to you at all."

I was surprised as hell. I had that chip for about 2 yrs and never knew it bypassed the speed govenor. Probably better I didn't know.

 

Well it is a L03, come on what can you expect????? Nah, seriously I decided to hit it about half way so I should've said 1 1/2 mile span ran out.....I was doing about 65 before I floored it. Plus it's and auto so doesn't really kick or anything....just goes. I was just wondering like specific power numbers by doing the chip alone with what little I have done so far....but I guess I can find it anywhere. I just don't wanna do the judging by the seat of my pants thing....even though it is be most fun way to find out power!!
Lc

 

dont forget that faster you go the taller your tires get which throws your speedo.