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Old Mar 3, 2004 | 04:15 PM
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what does everyone think about 350 heads on a 305 pros cons?
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Old Mar 3, 2004 | 04:20 PM
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Depends on the heads. Flow would have to outweigh the loss in compression.
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Old Mar 3, 2004 | 05:27 PM
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Depends on heads, pistons, cam and material. What are your ideas?
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Old Mar 4, 2004 | 10:11 AM
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go with l98 heads from a camaro (64cc combustion chamber) with lt1 cam and maybe 1.6rr.... Most tell me the heads wouldnt be worth it.

not trying to hijack his thread just throwing an idea out to be debated until he brings up his ideas

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Old Mar 4, 2004 | 10:15 AM
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the problem is with 64cc chambers, you compresion ratio takes a pretty seroious hit. the other thing to be concerened with is the valve sizing/spacing. most 350 performance heads have large valves hat will not clear the tiny bore of the 305.

l98 heads have basicly the same port design as the 416 305 castings do, only real diffrence is CC size. the 416's also respond VERY well to porting.
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Old Mar 4, 2004 | 10:24 AM
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cant you go with a very thin head gasket like the felpro 1094 with .015" ? i dont think the loss in compression would drop so much.

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Old Mar 4, 2004 | 10:26 AM
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factory used .015" shim gaskets.

with everything the same, the diffrence of 6cc on a 305 would drop you from 9.3:1 to about 8.65:1

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Old Mar 4, 2004 | 10:42 AM
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hm, do you know how much loss in hp that would be?

btw, does someone know the piston down bore @ tdc from a 91' 305?

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Old Mar 4, 2004 | 11:06 AM
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Originally posted by Nebu
hm, do you know how much loss in hp that would be?

btw, does someone know the piston down bore @ tdc from a 91' 305?
Do you just want the bore and stroke of the 305? The bore is 3.74 and the stroke is 3.48.
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Old Mar 4, 2004 | 11:17 AM
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The Dyno2000 Software needs the Piston down bore to calculate the compression ratio.
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Old Mar 4, 2004 | 12:27 PM
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you could also try 081 305 TPI centerbolt heads. With some porting they should flow pretty good. Also, you could always have 350 heads milled to retain some compression
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Old Mar 4, 2004 | 01:33 PM
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I'd vote for the milling if you really want 350 heads on the 305.

9.3 to 8.65 is quite a drop. Anyone know if the 350 heads flow that much better than the 305's?

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Old Mar 4, 2004 | 01:36 PM
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the 350s do have the bigger 1.94" intake valves as opposed to the 1.84" valves of the 305 heads.
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Old Mar 4, 2004 | 01:57 PM
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valve changes are not a big deal, the port casting between the 416's and the l98's is the same. if you ned the head that much, you will likely have to have your intake manifold done also. keep that in mind.
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Old Mar 4, 2004 | 02:03 PM
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Originally posted by Nebu
The Dyno2000 Software needs the Piston down bore to calculate the compression ratio.
The stock compression ratio for your car is 9.3:1. There are many factors in determining the correct compression ratio when you change parts.
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Old Mar 4, 2004 | 03:03 PM
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It is this value, which i need to complete the calculation. i hope dd2k is accurate

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Old Mar 4, 2004 | 03:36 PM
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the heads i picked up are 14102193 heard they are from 350 tbi swivel port heads i do plan on doing small port work to the intake and exhaust would it be possible for me to get the heads milled so much that my compression would go up to say 9.5 1 and does anyone know the specs on these heads compared to the stock heads?
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Old Mar 4, 2004 | 03:46 PM
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i think it is .030" deck height (probably varies from the factory a little" but don't we also have dished pistons?
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Old Mar 4, 2004 | 04:06 PM
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Originally posted by 25thanniversary
the heads i picked up are 14102193 heard they are from 350 tbi swivel port heads i do plan on doing small port work to the intake and exhaust would it be possible for me to get the heads milled so much that my compression would go up to say 9.5 1 and does anyone know the specs on these heads compared to the stock heads?
It is not worth it. You can get a set of 305 TPI heads for $100 and will match the cost of all the machine work you are going to have to do on those swirl port heads.
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Old Mar 4, 2004 | 07:06 PM
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what is the cc rating intake port sizes?
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Old Mar 7, 2004 | 09:31 AM
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How much lift will the 416 heads support?
I have an LT1 cam, and the 416's I'm getting ready to start protiing, just curious if I could go with more lift.
Thanks Scoty
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Old Mar 9, 2004 | 07:58 PM
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dont mean to jack your post but i need heads for my car and ive got 300 bucks to do it.anyone know.its the 305 tbi i got and i got a LT1 cam waiting so if the heads had the springs and 3angle valve job that would be great.
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Old Mar 9, 2004 | 08:08 PM
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Originally posted by rsscoty
How much lift will the 416 heads support?
I have an LT1 cam, and the 416's I'm getting ready to start protiing, just curious if I could go with more lift.
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.480 max but a little machine work and you can go past .5XX with ease.

Originally posted by tbfirebird
dont mean to jack your post but i need heads for my car and ive got 300 bucks to do it.anyone know.its the 305 tbi i got and i got a LT1 cam waiting so if the heads had the springs and 3angle valve job that would be great.
Read the heads section on the sticky.

https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...hreadid=227281
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