Do our cars have rev limiters?
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Do our cars have rev limiters?
Well, I sort of like maybe 80 percent fixed my misfire problem in my car yesterday. I decided to take her out for a spin soon afterwards.
I dropped it down to first, and just punched it from then on, I uhh...well I forgot to shift at the right moment so I accidentally took the car to 6000 rpms by mistake (i'll never do that again,
)
I was just thinking that, I took the car that high in the RPM range shouldn't it have bounced off a rev limiter or something? Do the TBIs not have one?
And if not, isn't that like...not good?
I dropped it down to first, and just punched it from then on, I uhh...well I forgot to shift at the right moment so I accidentally took the car to 6000 rpms by mistake (i'll never do that again,
) I was just thinking that, I took the car that high in the RPM range shouldn't it have bounced off a rev limiter or something? Do the TBIs not have one?
And if not, isn't that like...not good?
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From: Hurst, Texas
Car: 1983 G20 Chevy
Engine: 305 TPI
Transmission: 4L60
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Originally Posted by 91ChevyRS
Well, I sort of like maybe 80 percent fixed my misfire problem in my car yesterday. I decided to take her out for a spin soon afterwards.
I dropped it down to first, and just punched it from then on, I uhh...well I forgot to shift at the right moment so I accidentally took the car to 6000 rpms by mistake (i'll never do that again,
)
I was just thinking that, I took the car that high in the RPM range shouldn't it have bounced off a rev limiter or something? Do the TBIs not have one?
And if not, isn't that like...not good?
I dropped it down to first, and just punched it from then on, I uhh...well I forgot to shift at the right moment so I accidentally took the car to 6000 rpms by mistake (i'll never do that again,
) I was just thinking that, I took the car that high in the RPM range shouldn't it have bounced off a rev limiter or something? Do the TBIs not have one?
And if not, isn't that like...not good?
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I am surprised it actually held up that far, whenever I manually shift I usually shift into gear at like 5000 rpm sometimes 5500
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Originally Posted by 91ChevyRS
I am surprised it actually held up that far, whenever I manually shift I usually shift into gear at like 5000 rpm sometimes 5500
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wait so, your saying that going 6k in a relatively stock LO3 isnt healthy.
Oops....i hope that doesnt cost me in the long run
Oops....i hope that doesnt cost me in the long run
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Originally Posted by 91ChevyRS
wait so, your saying that going 6k in a relatively stock LO3 isnt healthy.
Oops....i hope that doesnt cost me in the long run
Oops....i hope that doesnt cost me in the long run
It typically won't hurt the short-block, but the valve springs will float before you can do any real damage to the short block. Too much valve float is a bad thing.
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I dont neccessarily want my car to be a high revving powerhouse, but what are some of the things I can do to make it....stronger in the upper RPM range.
My valve seals are bad, but I plan on waiting until I have enough money for new heads anyway..although I really dont know what heads I should be looking at for a car like mine.
My valve seals are bad, but I plan on waiting until I have enough money for new heads anyway..although I really dont know what heads I should be looking at for a car like mine.
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Well, you stock engine isnt making you any power after 5000 rpms, so there is no point in going higher. But if you do want to be able to go higher later on. Stiffer valve springs is what you need. Full roll rockers help in the upper rpm range as well. Less friction.
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Originally Posted by 91ChevyRS
I dont neccessarily want my car to be a high revving powerhouse, but what are some of the things I can do to make it....stronger in the upper RPM range.
It isn't desirable to have a "street" 305 spin more than 6000 RPM. For that you need stock 1.84/1.5 valves or 1.94/1.5 valves (but this might create shrouding problems). Also, your stock heads (especially ported) will support 275 (at least that's what people on here say - and similations verify it). If you get some 305 heads from the TPI or carbed 305s you can make 300 hp (with the right cam of course). If you port those heads good you could make 350+ hp.
A 305 doesn't need super-flowing aluminum heads ...at least not if it'll be making its power under 6000 RPM. The extra flow of such heads is unnecessary because the 305 simply does not demand it in order to fill its cylinders (below 6000 RPM). Plus, aftermarket heads to fit the 305 will have larger intake runners and bigger intake valves - both of these may actually limit performance in the RPM range that you want a street car to perform. So, in the end, ported stock 305 heads will flow all you'll ever need for a 305 that makes its power under 6000 RPM. ...People complain that there aren't many good aftermarket heads for the 305, but the fact is that the 305 doesn't need aftermarket heads for what 99.9% of owners want the car to do. Luckily, the stock castings have the potential to be modified for that.
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well i hope everything goes fine with the car....it was my mistake, not really something i'd do again.
How do you know if you have too much valve float?
How do you know if you have too much valve float?
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i doubt any damage was done. i used to take my L03 deep into the 6000rpm range. i owned it for 2 years and beat the hell out of it without any engine problems due to over revving.
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