What is your 310 running in the 1/4 mile now? I was just curious on what u did and what u run in the 1/4 mile. Thanks.

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Eric Natzke
91 Firebird 305 TBI (ZZ4 summer of "01")
ASCD Ram Air Hood-3" custom exaust-Flowmaster 80 Series-No Cat-Edelbrock TES Headers (coated)-March Pulleys-TBI Spacer-K&N Open ELement-TransGo Shift Kit-B&M Supercooler 28,000 GVW-Hypertech Thermomaster-160 Stat-3:42 GM Gears-Auburn Posi Unit-Edlebrock Strut Tower Brace-MSD Superconducters-Accel Cap & Rotor-MSD Blaster Coil-Rapidfire Plugs-265/50/R15 Tires-Emmison's all Gone
http://members.aol.com/j007golden/91firebird.html

 

Enough of this crap, i know where this is going, and if I had gone to the track recently i would post my times but, i havent, so, you are out of luck, sorry

 

It hasn't gotten to where it's going yet so I'm re-opening this... hopefully it doesn't get to where it's going

 

Hey thanks Dirk.

Pablo what kind of stuff have u done so far to your car? I was just curious and a couple people I know was curious too. When do u think ur going to go to the track? Have u ever been to the track with ur car yet?

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If you seemed the question was offensive or leading somewhere, its Not so don't take it like that.
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Eric Natzke
91 Firebird 305 TBI (ZZ4 summer of "01")
ASCD Ram Air Hood-3" custom exaust-Flowmaster 80 Series-No Cat-Edelbrock TES Headers (coated)-March Pulleys-TBI Spacer-K&N Open ELement-TransGo Shift Kit-B&M Supercooler 28,000 GVW-Hypertech Thermomaster-160 Stat-3:42 GM Gears-Auburn Posi Unit-Edlebrock Strut Tower Brace-MSD Superconducters-Accel Cap & Rotor-MSD Blaster Coil-Rapidfire Plugs-265/50/R15 Tires-Emmison's all Gone
http://members.aol.com/j007golden/91firebird.html

[This message has been edited by 91Bird305 (edited November 21, 2000).]

 

I'd like to know too. Take this with a grain of salt, but Pablo portrays himself as the be-all end-all GOD of cars in general. The tone he uses creates a bad vibe IMO.

Now that I think back, with thousands of posts from Pablo, why are there no track times, G-Tech times or dyno numbers listed?

We're only asking you to backup your godlike presence with some facts. Please respond.

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'92 RS, ZZ4 10:1 350, Edelbrock 6085 heads, Crane 208/214 467/482 cam, GM/LT4 1.6 true roller rockers, Holley Projection TBI intake, Holley 670 TBI, SLP/Jet-Hot 1-5/8" headers, Catco 3" cat, Flowmaster 3" catback, Hughes 2500 stall converter, stock 700R4, Auburn Pro posi w/3.42, 17x9" SS rims w/BFG tires, Medium Quasar Blue w/white SS stripes, 48,000 miles....

 

Well I am just curious on what he has done so far. Hey, do u have any pics of ur car or engine too? I don't think I have ever seen ur car or engine before. What year is your car anyways? Isn't it a T/A?

 

Have any of you talked to Pablo over the phone? I have... And, after that conversation and reviewing his custom PROM, I knew that it/he was all a lie...

No offense, Pablo, but most of us have been building up motors for (almost) longer than you have been alive. AND, we have had drivers licenses for longer than you have been alive. Just be a little more kind and honest with your mods/performance gains. Seat of the pants is bogus, BTW. Get some real engine and/or chassis dyno numbers if you can. That way, we can all be candid and truthful about what he have VS what we WISH we had...

 

I talk to pablo on ICQ all the time(phone from L.A. to Miami would be a little steep . Why would you think he's BSing you?

 

Outside of not having any numbers or times, the info from Pablo seems good to me. Just because he is younger than some of you means absoluelty s**t. I know kids without a license and they know a lot about engines (Mainly bike engines). I can see why he wanted to lock this thread, cause he knew where it was and is going. Im sure he'll post his #'s and Times when he wants, so why not stop bugging him about it.

[This message has been edited by Godti (edited November 21, 2000).]

 

My intentions wasn't for it to be like this. I just wanted to know what mods he has done and what kind of car he even has for that matter. I wasn't here to critize.

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Eric Natzke
91 Firebird 305 TBI (ZZ4 summer of "01")
ASCD Ram Air Hood-3" custom exaust-Flowmaster 80 Series-No Cat-Edelbrock TES Headers (coated)-March Pulleys-TBI Spacer-K&N Open ELement-TransGo Shift Kit-B&M Supercooler 28,000 GVW-Hypertech Thermomaster-160 Stat-3:42 GM Gears-Auburn Posi Unit-Edlebrock Strut Tower Brace-MSD Superconducters-Accel Cap & Rotor-MSD Blaster Coil-Rapidfire Plugs-265/50/R15 Tires-Emmison's all Gone
http://members.aol.com/j007golden/91firebird.html

 

What makes you think that he portrays himself as the "God" of cars? For as long as i've been here, i've never found Pablos' comments offensive or "Godlike" in any way. He's just speaking from his experience, which by the way i find very helpful for my own ride.

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Mods:Hooker Aerochamber 3" exhaust, gutted kitty,
March 2 piece underdrive pullies, smog pump gone,;these two made a very noticable difference.
14x4 K&N open air element filter-the best mod so far
Eibach springs with KYB's all around.
Appearance: Harwood cowl hood, Z-28 wing, painted black(7/20/00)-original color was light blue
*All these mods were made this year
Stock Options:117,000 miles on motor, 5spd, TBI, 305, T-tops
Run a best of 16.7 @85mph with traction problem. Have to try again sometime.

 

I could argue that comment but come on guys, don't ruin my thread. No more talk about it. Where u at Pablo?

 

Oops Dirk, should have kept it closed.

First to, Fastbroker.

Actually MOST of us are Pablos age, not yours.

There is a pic of Pablos car at my site. http://snflupigus.tripod.com

As for God, There isnt one. Anywhere, especially not here on thirdgen. But , I think i would be as close as it gets.

As far as I know and what ive talked to all of you.
Pablo is a good guy, 91305bird is a good guy, Taz is a good guy, and fastbroker is a good guy. And im sure if we were all in the same bar, we could easily shoot a game a pool and check out chicks together without any fighting or b*tching or whining. We all drive thirdgens. Put your F'n egos away, and if somebody says their car can beat yours. Say, ok, fine, but most likely, neither will ever know.
This should have stayed closed, and should now be closed.

 

No it shouldn't have. Pablo where are u man? If everyone would just stop posting about how much they hate and love Pablo then it wouldn't have to be closed. (I think everyone knows how I feel about Pablo) and you don't see me talking sh*t. Just everyone chill.

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Eric Natzke
91 Firebird 305 TBI (ZZ4 summer of "01")
ASCD Ram Air Hood-3" custom exaust-Flowmaster 80 Series-No Cat-Edelbrock TES Headers (coated)-March Pulleys-TBI Spacer-K&N Open ELement-TransGo Shift Kit-B&M Supercooler 28,000 GVW-Hypertech Thermomaster-160 Stat-3:42 GM Gears-Auburn Posi Unit-Edlebrock Strut Tower Brace-MSD Superconducters-Accel Cap & Rotor-MSD Blaster Coil-Rapidfire Plugs-265/50/R15 Tires-Emmison's all Gone
http://members.aol.com/j007golden/91firebird.html

 

What the hell is the big deal here? Eric asked a legit question, and ht ethread gets locked. Then, Dirk re-opens the thread, and everyone starts with their "I hate so and so" and "So and so knows everything". Why can't you just let the guy answer the question and get it over with?
BTW, I don't see where your getting this "I'm older so I'm smarter" BS talk from, I'm so sick of people thinking they know everything just because they've got a few years on someone, doesn't mean you have more brains. I'm only 18, and I've built three engines with absolutly no help from a bare block. I guess you could have build it better right ?

I personally don't have a problem with any of you, but if you have something you'd like to say, go ahead and say it! You not hurting anyone here.

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1992 RS
327, Modded TBI, Rebuilt WC T-5 5-speed, PRO 4 15" rims, Nitto's, 3.73's, SLP 1 5/8" headers, and a few other things.

 

Pablo man seriously, just respond to the question. This is dumb. What the heck is going on here?

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Eric Natzke
91 Firebird 305 TBI (ZZ4 summer of "01")
ASCD Ram Air Hood-3" custom exaust-Flowmaster 80 Series-No Cat-Edelbrock TES Headers (coated)-March Pulleys-TBI Spacer-K&N Open ELement-TransGo Shift Kit-B&M Supercooler 28,000 GVW-Hypertech Thermomaster-160 Stat-3:42 GM Gears-Auburn Posi Unit-Edlebrock Strut Tower Brace-MSD Superconducters-Accel Cap & Rotor-MSD Blaster Coil-Rapidfire Plugs-265/50/R15 Tires-Emmison's all Gone
http://members.aol.com/j007golden/91firebird.html

 

Pablo is 21, for those who don't know. I don't see why anyone should rag on him, he's helped quite a few out. Fact he's always been there to help others with their TBI problems.

As for his attitude, some of you better take a good long look in the mirror. You don't see him calling anyone an *******, idiot, throwing around raciest words, etc. Like some of you did to him at 3G.O. Pablo is not blind, he knows if you've been naughty or nice, so to put it. Think of that 91Bird305, you should know what I'm talking about.

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1989 Camaro RS LO3 WCT5 "The Hose Queen" 0-60' 2.34 1/4 15.8@87mph
http://350.StreetRacing.org

 

i don't give a f_ck. I am just trying to ask a simple question. I already said I don't really like the guy a long time ago but he seems to be pretty knowledable about TBI. I was just curious on what he has done to his engine. Thats all. Not here to start trouble. I leave that for 3GO. So everyone just stop posting on this in defense or to critize Pablo. This isn't why I created this thread. It was just to learn about our moderators enigne and car. Of course, he has to respond in order to do that. But it doesn't look like he is going to. Figures.

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By the way, when did I start becoming a racist?
Why are people attacking me now? I am the only legit one that has been posting on this thread. What the hell? FROM NOW ON PABLO CAN ONLY POST HERE! SO STOP! Pablo, please man, I know we don't like eachother but I would respond if u asked me something like this. So stop being gay about it.
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Eric Natzke
91 Firebird 305 TBI (ZZ4 summer of "01")
ASCD Ram Air Hood-3" custom exaust-Flowmaster 80 Series-No Cat-Edelbrock TES Headers (coated)-March Pulleys-TBI Spacer-K&N Open ELement-TransGo Shift Kit-B&M Supercooler 28,000 GVW-Hypertech Thermomaster-160 Stat-3:42 GM Gears-Auburn Posi Unit-Edlebrock Strut Tower Brace-MSD Superconducters-Accel Cap & Rotor-MSD Blaster Coil-Rapidfire Plugs-265/50/R15 Tires-Emmison's all Gone
http://members.aol.com/j007golden/91firebird.html

[This message has been edited by 91Bird305 (edited November 22, 2000).]

 

I didn't like him much at first too. But there is a reason you butt heads with people. Most often than not you are very much a like.

 

Wow... Gotta be something better to do than this, man. And a lot DOES come from experience. You will not be able to see this until you get older, unfortuantely... Building 3 engines is not a lot of experience, not matter how well they ran and no matter how old you were when you built them!!! I think I built 3 enigines when I was 15 and that didn't mean anything but the knowledge I have earned from the countless other designs/rebuilds/patents/etc over the next 20 years (yeah, 35 w/kids) of engine work counts for something. It's just that young guys can't take that talk and are heard-headed when it comes to advice from older guys. I know, I was young, once, myself, and had the same attitude and can understand it. It's just hard to deal with the "young" attitude when you get a little older and that's probably the main beef that started this post.


AND for the record, I NEVER used the word "hate"... I don't hate anyone, just don't like to be lied to... Just get some dyno/track numbers or shut up about how much power your new custom PROM is giving you.

I got dyno numbers and will post my PROM info and engine combos I used to get them. I see noone else doing this. I wonder why...

 

well to be perfectly honest i think pablo was right to close this thread on the 2nd reply. U guys wanted an answer and he gave one. HE DIDNT GO TO THE TRACK. There is the golden answer he was looking for.

Eric, i am sure u can see how pablo is gonna get pissed at a post like this. U knew that he didnt take his car to the track and i think he, as our moderator, would have told us about his runs. Now lets just drop this subject.

Pablo in erics deffence he was really only asking a simple question. U didnt have to be so mean about ur reply. A simple yes/no answer. Maybe a list of mods and a 1/4 mile time u hope to run. We could have kept this on a friendly basis. There really is no need for the attitude from n e one.

As for older guys being more knowlegdeable i thinkit is only a fact. I am 17 and i listen to every single word of car advice i get from older people. The best advice u can get is based on experience.

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1989 pontiac firebird
bright red exterior(just repainted)
grey interior
5 spd
305 TBI (stock)
WS.6 formula wheels
3.73 posi rear end
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system: 2 10" MTX thunder 2000 in a Professionally done custom bandpass box.
Blaupunkt CD player
Blaupunkt 4x6 and 6x9
600 watt rockford fosgate 4.6 amp

thinking about a flowmaster

 

Well, since this thread was directed to Pablo and it is perfectly clear that he is not going to respond to this thread because he hasnt gone to the track yet with his current setup, and he closed the thread in the first place.

There is no reason to have it open any longer so its getting closed, again.