Hey all you third gen nuts just thought i would inform you on my recent purchase. I just closed the deal a half hour ago. Its a black 91 rs with the TBI 305 its got the T5 tranny. Im 17 and bought the car for 3700 i was working 60 hours a week at a garage over the summer so i could afford it. Well its got some problems like a fair amount of rust on the frame and back bumper it needs a tune up and the hood nees to be adjusted. I plan on doing all the work myself cause i really want to learn about how these beasts run. So any questions or coments would be apreciated. Thanks

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91 Camaro RS Black with silver leather. 305 TBI and a 5 speed all stock for now

 

beasts? Well, just hang out here for a couple weeks, read all the posts that come in and all the tech articles, and past posts too. Youll be up on things in no time.
RS is your dream car? Well i guess we all have our dreams. I wont take that away from you. My dream car would be something like a mclaren f1, but thats just me.

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IM: snflupigus | ICQ: 96787192

Snflupigus.com

Open Element Tech Article

ENGINE SPECS:
305 TBI,Open Element,K&N 14x3,Hypertech Stage I,454 GM TBI

STEREO SPECS:
JVC Kalmeleon kdlx3,Infinity Kappa 2way 6x9's,PPI 4x6 Coaxials,PPI PC2400 AMP @ 2ohm
DEI Studio 12" 4ohm DVC,Custom Box:Exactly 1 Cubic Foot

 

Congrats. I remember my first F-body. (A whopping 2 years ago). It was a 2.8L POS. But you couldnt tell me it wasnt the baddest thing on the road. Now, I know better. So I think its good that this guy could start out w/ a V8. So, from me to you, Congrats.

 

Welcome to the World of 3rd gens -- dash rattles, slow power windows, harsh ride and leaking t-tops -- Yeah, I love 'em too!!! I've had 5 of them, and I've loved 'em all. I recently bought an 89 RS. You would thought I bought a new 'Vette or something. I have a 2000 Z71 that hasn't been cranked in a week -- just can't stay outta my RS. My first car was an 82 Z28, and I still have it(you can see it at http://www.bassettracing.cz28.com)
Congratulations, I hope you enjoy your RS.

 

Hey man>>>>>>>congrats on the ride. You ask the questions, we'll try and answer>>>>>>later

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Alex (AKA chevyboy) '91 RS 327 stroker, trans-go shift kit>> manual valve body, cat-delete, MSD (ignition, coil, 2-step, timing retard/ advance),Flowmaster, complete Edelbrock suspension including shocks, struts and lowering springs. CRAGAR drag wheels. Lowered 2.25" in front and 1.5" in rear....Best E/T 12.84 @109 mph...(got spray?)plus more!!

 

hey, congrats on your new ride. im 16 and ive had my 82 TA since Dec 99. go to my site at http://members.theglobe.com/transamg..._2/TAPICS.HTML to find out how i got it. i love it. hope you have fun with your 3rd gen. oh and my dream car is a Dodge Viper.

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RED82TA5.7L

1982 Pontiac Trans Am
Cross-Fire Injected 5.7l V8
Eldebrock Headers, 3" Hooker Cat-Back, duel outlet with quad tips.
Mods: 1.6 Proform Roller Rockers, electric fan, Corvette 5.7L CFI computer chip, K&Ns.
Audio: JVC Kameleon CD deck, Jenson 4x6 front, Eclipes 6x9 rear, 2 10" mTx T4000 powered by a mTx 200watt amp.

[This message has been edited by RED82TA5.7L (edited December 05, 2000).]

 

Was it a problem to fix those leaking t-tops?? Just curious.

Congrates to you, Adam. I have a 89 Trans-Am and its one of my dream cars (that I can afford). It wont be complete though till I get 400 Hp under the hood.

 

Congrats on purchasing ur thirdgen. A beast though? You will quickly learn what kind of engine u purchased soon enough, just don't go try and racing other V8's just yet. The second site in my sig (the last one) has a bunch tech tips and mod tips on the 305 TBI that I have done in my sig. I think it might help you out if thats what u plan on doing.

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Eric Natzke
91 Firebird 305 TBI (ZZ5 summer of "01")
ASCD Ram Air Hood-3" custom exaust-Flowmaster 80 Series-No Cat-Edelbrock TES Headers (coated)-March Pulleys-TBI Spacer-K&N Open ELement-TransGo Shift Kit-B&M Supercooler 28,000 GVW-Hypertech Thermomaster-160 Stat-3:42 GM Gears-Auburn Posi Unit-Edlebrock Strut Tower Brace-MSD Superconducters-MSD Cap & Rotor-MSD Blaster Coil-Rapidfire Plugs-265/50/R15 Tires-Emmison's all Gone
http://members.aol.com/j007golden/91firebird.html
For info on certain parts or mods go to the site below
http://members.aol.com/j007golden/modeval.html

 

This was my realistic dream car something that i actually had a chance of getting. By the way its got no power anything so its kind of a stripper. Ive heard of the TBIs not bein the most powerfull powerplants but hey its better then the bus. Anyone know any tricks on changing plugs ive heard its easier to get them from underneath any truth
Thanks
Adam

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91 Camaro RS Black with silver leather. 305 TBI and a 5 speed all stock for now

 

Hey man, congrans on the 'maro. Sounds like a nice car. In regards to the plugs, I did mine about a month ago, and yes it is 100 times easier to get them from underneath. I dont see how you could get all of them from up on top. Good luck with your new ride

 

I want to make this a rule, anybody object?

TBI = Fuel Delivery. NOT A BAD THING

now,

L03 = Engine. A BAD THING.

ok, everybody got that, sorry its just driving me insane to see the two used as synonyms.

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IM: snflupigus | ICQ: 96787192

Snflupigus.com

Open Element Tech Article

ENGINE SPECS:
305 TBI,Open Element,K&N 14x3,Hypertech Stage I,454 GM TBI

STEREO SPECS:
JVC Kalmeleon kdlx3,Infinity Kappa 2way 6x9's,PPI 4x6 Coaxials,PPI PC2400 AMP @ 2ohm
DEI Studio 12" 4ohm DVC,Custom Box:Exactly 1 Cubic Foot

 

Congrats on the car....tune it up, fix the dents, keep it waxed, armor-all the tires, maybe put a nice sound system in it, DEFNITELY put an alarm on it.
Trust me, its not the engine specs that are gonna make you feel good, its the looks you get from the ladies when you pull up or cruise by and its the comments people make when they hear that V-8 rumble.

Its HOW you get around, not HOW FAST.

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92 Camaro RS LO3, 5-spd, T-tops
Mechanics:
Open Air Element w/K&N Filter, Flowmaster 3" Cat-back Exhaust, Z28 Grille w/aftmkt fog lamps
Electronics:
Alpine 8030 Alarm System, Valentine One Radar Detector (How did I ever drive without one?), Pioneer DEH 7450 Head Unit w/6-pack CD changer, Pioneer DEQ 7600 Sound Processor, 2 Kenwood KAC-90 Amps powering 2 12" Pro Red subs and 4 Infiniti speakers.
NEXT UP: SLP 1 3/4" Headers/Y-pipe, Centerforce Dual Friction Clutch kit

 

I am not gonna get started on anything.....

I found changing the plugs was the easiest from underneath on the driverside and from up top on the passenger side (except for plug 7 on the driver side, go underneath for that.) Took me about 30 minutes maybe, can't really remember, didn't check. Hope this helps. Did u go to that site I made? What did u think of it? Guess I outa put the easiest way to install plugs on there too huh?

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Eric Natzke
91 Firebird 305 TBI (ZZ5 summer of "01")
ASCD Ram Air Hood-3" custom exaust-Flowmaster 80 Series-No Cat-Edelbrock TES Headers (coated)-March Pulleys-TBI Spacer-K&N Open ELement-TransGo Shift Kit-B&M Supercooler 28,000 GVW-Hypertech Thermomaster-160 Stat-3:42 GM Gears-Auburn Posi Unit-Edlebrock Strut Tower Brace-MSD Superconducters-MSD Cap & Rotor-MSD Blaster Coil-Rapidfire Plugs-265/50/R15 Tires-Emmison's all Gone
http://members.aol.com/j007golden/91firebird.html
For info on certain parts or mods go to the site below
http://members.aol.com/j007golden/modeval.html

 

Eric your site is pretty awesome and very informative. Im gonna leave the L03 stock for a bit and just cruise it when the weathers nice but somewhere down the line ill start moddin a bit. And snflupigus your sites nice too i like the open element how to. Sorry about the TBI mix up ill get my acronyms straight from now on.
Thanks Guys
Adam



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91 Camaro RS Black with silver leather. 305 TBI and a 5 speed all stock for now

 

the first time U get stomped by an import im sure you will be itchin to wrench under the hood,but its not all under the hood that makes the ride pick up...
ignore your friends telling you its the 2 barrel TB thats keeping u from making power and whatever elese they throw at U and just read this message bord and read all the tech articles u can....

 

Adam, I am your friend, and I am telling u.......TBI SUCKS! J/K It isn't that greatest thing that came out of GM but it can work right if u tune it and modify it. Just takes a little extra work to run it fast thats all.

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Eric Natzke
91 Firebird 305 TBI (ZZ5 summer of "01")
ASCD Ram Air Hood-3" custom exaust-Flowmaster 80 Series-No Cat-Edelbrock TES Headers (coated)-March Pulleys-TBI Spacer-K&N Open ELement-TransGo Shift Kit-B&M Supercooler 28,000 GVW-Hypertech Thermomaster-160 Stat-3:42 GM Gears-Auburn Posi Unit-Edlebrock Strut Tower Brace-MSD Superconducters-MSD Cap & Rotor-MSD Blaster Coil-Rapidfire Plugs-265/50/R15 Tires-Emmison's all Gone
http://members.aol.com/j007golden/91firebird.html
For info on certain parts or mods go to the site below
http://members.aol.com/j007golden/modeval.html

 

hey man, congrats...you will love the car. i remember when i first got my car...it was seriously like a dream come true.

enjoy it!

- brian

by the way, check your email

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1991 Camaro RS - Ultra Blue Metallic, T-Tops
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GM 350 HO Crate Engine - Vortec Heads, Edelbrock Performer Vortec Intake, Holley 670 CFM Throttle Body, Open Air Cleaner w/14"x3" K&N, SLP 1 3/4" Stainless Headers, Edelbrock Victor Series Water Pump, Accell Superstock Wires, Cap, and Rotor, MSD Blaster Coil, Hypertech Fan Switch & Thermomaster Chip, AC Delco Rapidfires, 3" Cat Back, Flowmaster 40 Series Muffler

700R4 - 2,400 Stall Converter, Vette Servo, Shift Kit, B&M Super Cooler

Brian's 1991 RS
Central NY F-Body Association
Join the Third Generation F-Body TBI Web Ring
z28boy@twcny.rr.com IM name: Z28 Boy

 

Cool. Sounds like you are really looking forward to fixing it up a little better than it is now. If you run into problems,don't give up.Give it time. I'm on my 6th F-body; 2 T/a's, three third gen maros,and one 4th gen camaro.I gave up the 4th gen Z for a third gen.I know,I know...but I love my third gens! Anyway,take care and welcome to the world of thirdgen.

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'91 RS 5.0 TBI
New paint-solid black
ROH Snyper wheels-17x9 wrapped in 275/40/17
Eibach sportline springs
Flowmaster cat-back
TBI mods
383 implantation soon to come.

 

Originally posted by Basett Racing:
Welcome to the World of 3rd gens -- dash rattles, slow power windows, harsh ride and leaking t-tops -- Yeah, I love 'em too!!! I've had 5 of them, and I've loved 'em all. I recently bought an 89 RS. You would thought I bought a new 'Vette or something. I have a 2000 Z71 that hasn't been cranked in a week -- just can't stay outta my RS. My first car was an 82 Z28, and I still have it(you can see it at http://www.bassettracing.cz28.com)
Congratulations, I hope you enjoy your RS.
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Was it a problem to fix those leaking t-tops?? Just curious

The Only way I ever got mine to stop leaking was to get new seals from GM. I think there are some aftermarket companies that carry these, but I just ordered them from GM. this was on an 83 Z28 that was pretty used up when I got it. I personally prefer the hardtops and the two I have now are hardtops, but the T tops are nice in the summer. Good luck w/ getting them sealed up.
http://bassettracing.cz28.com

 

My T-Tops used to leak like nothing else (every time it rained I had a huge puddle in the passenger side floor board). It took a tube or two of silicon caulking, but they seal pretty good now.

-Mark W.
'88 SC Camaro w/ 305 TBI

 

You sound like me a couple years ago. I bought a red RS with 305 TBI auto for only $50 more than you spent. The guy already had SLP headers and 3" cat. He also had the 16x8 centerline 5 hole wheels which I like a lot. Oh yeah, and it had 3.08 gears. I really like the car but just recently the engine desided to burn serious oil so it's gotta go. I'm going to be keeping TBI so I can pass emmisions and just because it's going to be a daily driver. I am not going to half *** any of it. Holley 670 TB, 350 injectors and pressure reg adjustable, carb intake w/adapter plate, custom chip, and of course either the vortec 330hp 350 or the 285hp roller cam 350. I'm still trying to work out if vortec heads will pass emission in NJ or not. Am I forgeting anything?

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, Jon (91 RS too many mods to list)

 

Everything sounds good to me J. Man, I want some 16x8 Formula rims bad. I don't like these 15x7's.

 

tube of silicon, hope you dont plan on repainting that car. How much are new ttop seals, mine dont leak, even at 105k. Just curious.

ADAM, Welcome to the world of modification.

 

I think black GTA Rims would look better on your white 'Bird!



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'88 T/A
305 TBI with WC-T5
50,000 miles
Flowmaster 3" exhaust
14" K&N Open Element

 

Hey guys i was washing the car and when i finished i opened up the door and guess what i found. a nice little puddle in the passenger seat so i guess ill be needin some t-top restoration as well. The cars goin good otherwise so peace out.
Adam

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91 Camaro RS Black with silver leather. 305 TBI and a 5 speed all stock for now

 

snflupigus, I honestly don't remember the actual price, This was about 5 years ago and if I remember correctly (don't quote me though) I think they were in the $160-$180 range, I do know that at the time I was in college, and I remember being amazed that they were so high ($200 HAS to go a LONG way when your in college!!) But I'll try to find the receipt, I always keep things like that, but I'll have to locate it. I think SoffSeal makes them too, and there probably cheaper than GM.
http://bassettracing.cz28.com

 

Adam Congradulations on your Thirdgen! You are now on a long road of headscratching and aggravation. But it will pay off when you finally smoke them tires down on time. Anyway congrads!

 

A little bit of patience, some driving around without interior molding on the A-pillars and some silicone caulking fixed ALL my leaky t-top problems. There is no need to go out and spend hundreds on new seals (unless they're totally dried out and cracking). Just take that silicone to every crack you find, trace the water to every screw hole and attack it.

Oh, one other thing Adam, the hatches like to leak too, right near the top where they're bolted on. Mine did and I fixed that with silicone too! Just take the molding strip off (4 easy screws) and you'll see, unscrew each bolt, put a dab of silicone on and screw them back on. Do one at a time so the hatch doesn't tempt popping off. Email me if you've got any other problems.

Other than that, congrats on the new car! Have fun with the bondo too ;-) I've done that with my previous bird and it takes some getting used to.

And I don't know about anybody else around here but nobody's said that a TTA is their dream car... sure is MINE!

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'91 Firebird
305/TBI(L03)/700R4/T-tops
Mods: Catco high flow cat - B&M Shift kit - TA tail light conversion - K&N - White faced guages on the way
Stereo: Pioneer DEH-P8200R - Pioneer 6x9's - Kenwood 8" Tube

'87 Firebird
LB8/700R4/220K
Twas a good car until the accident.
Firebird parts

 

87 GNX, my dream car. Then the Dodge Viper 650/R

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Eric Natzke
91 Firebird 305 TBI (ZZ5 "01")
ASCD Ram Air Hood-3" custom exaust-Flowmaster 80 Series-No Cat-Edelbrock TES Headers (coated)-March Pulleys-TBI Spacer-K&N Open ELement-TransGo Shift Kit-B&M Supercooler 28,000 GVW-Hypertech Thermomaster-160 Stat-3:42 GM Gears-Auburn Posi Unit-Edlebrock Strut Tower Brace-MSD Superconducters-MSD Cap & Rotor-MSD Blaster Coil-Rapidfire Plugs-265/50/R15 Tires-Emmison's all Gone
http://members.aol.com/j007golden/91firebird.html
For info on certain parts or mods go to the site below
http://members.aol.com/j007golden/modeval.html

 

1970 Chevelle LS-6 with a 4-Speed would have to be my dream car. you got to love cars runnin 12's from the factory

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91 Camaro RS Black with silver leather. 305 TBI and a 5 speed all stock for now

 

congrats on the car. if ya look at some of the old topics you'll see "LO3 ET's Please", that will be a good place for you to look for some of the power mods available to you. and check out the tech for the ultimate tbi mods.
my dream car is a 67 stingray convertable, 427w/ 6 pack, and close ratio 4-sp. my neighbor had one when i was a kid. if i close my eyes i can still hear those sidepies rumbling up the street.

lata
tim

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91 Camaro RS-LO3,Auto.
14.301 @ 94.39mph
The stock cam will go 13's!!!!!!!!!!!
The car is going street strip for next season. 13's here i come!!!!!
Edlebrock TES Headers, Cat Eliminator Pipe, Borla Adjustable Cat Back,Marche Pulleys, HyperTech Chip,Transgo Shift Kit,B&M Convertor(2000stall),Steve Spohn Rear Rig( all rod ends), Poly Front Bushings,Ported TB, 350 Injectors, Edlebrock Performer TBI Intake, Performer Heads, 1.6 Roller Tipped Rockers

 

Adam - Congrats on the car!
I live in CT also. I have owned 7 thirdgens so far... 87 IROC at the moment. I am picking up an 88 Formy w/305 TBI next weekend. If ya ever have a question or need a hand with something, let me know.

You might also want to check out www.nethirdgen.org
it doesn't contain the tech info that this site does, but it more of a place to just get to socialize and get to know other thirdgen owners in the Northeast.

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Proud owner of the slowest L98 in the North East
1987 IROC 5.7 - 16.43 @ 82
1986 S10 4x4 w/93 Vortec 4.3 DAMN GAS TANK SKID PLATE!
1990 Chevy Beretta - *grin* let's just sayMOOOOOOOOO!

 

I reccommend http://www.3rdgen.org or this new place is kinda cool. Just needs more people to register. http://www.transamgta.com