ok...i got a 92 camaro RS v8 305 5.0 blah blah blah how do i know if i have tpi or tbi, why does it matter, what is it, WHO WHAY IM CONFUSED!!!! help me??? please??? goy

 

TBI. TBI looks like a round carb air cleaner aka garbage can lid. TPI looks like a metal spider humping your v8.

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-Tas
'89 Formula WS-6

305, TBI, auto, 14x3 chrome flat based open element with K&N, Milodon 160* thermo, functional Formula hood, cross-flow Flowmaster, '99z28 rear pipes and tips....

To be installed eventually far far far into the future: Yours if the price is right and I don't have to ship :
Hooker 1-5/8" 50 state legal headers, Dynomax 3" I pipe (PN 44063 and 43248), Catco 3" cat, and injector spacer.

Super GRK_Taz World
F-Body Dual Exaust
EFI & Intake Options
AOL IM: superGRtaz

 

Thats pretty funny Tas,. Never heard the difference described like that before..

Well I plan on getting my garbage can lid to go like stink...

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89 RS Camaro, LO3 305 TBI
Autometer Air/Fuel Ratio Guage
Cooling Fan Overide Switch
L69 Duel Snorkel Intake
Dynomax Ultra Flo SS Cat Back

 

I wonder if this guy was drunk when he posted this?

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Eric Natzke
91 Firebird 305 TBI
"It Ain't Stock"
http://members.aol.com/j007golden/91firebird.html
For info on certain parts or mods go to the site below
http://members.aol.com/j007golden/modeval.html

 

NO i was not drunk, it was just 4am, no one answered why it matters and all, im also semi-retarded =) i know nothing about cars but i want to lLLLEARNNNNNNNN help me

 

I think ur a full retard and need to quit posting. Grow up and grow a brain before u want to post here again..

 

no just answer my question

 

ok i think i figured out that its a tbi, i looked at the tech charts, but what is better tbi tpi? i read the descriptions of each but it just made no sense...someone want to dumb it down alittle?

 

You have TBI, myself as well. The difference is the TBI sits on the low output motor and the TPI is on the high output motor. The TPI makes considerably more power, but its also due to better heads and sometimes better cam than the TBI cars. The "Lo3" engine in our cars wheezes out about 170 HP at the max, and because of its crappy heads has almost no chance of making power about 4500 RPMs. TPI cars make anywhere from 190-220 HP i belive, i would look in the tech data section for accurate numbers, and also MUCH more midrange torque than the TBI cars. Thats the basic difference outside of how they actually work, which is quite different. I always liked the way TAS explained it... the big metal spider

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88 Camaro (The mighty LO3 SC!)
305TBI/700R4/2.73/123,XXX miles
14" Open Element and Flowmaster 80 seires

Next up: headers and gears

[This message has been edited by HrdRockA4305 (edited September 16, 2001).]

 

I can't take the credit for that discription. I saw it somewhere on this site a couple weeks ago. Anyone notice this guys name? I just did. I have a feeling he's gonna get banned or need a new name asap.

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-Tas
'89 Formula WS-6

305, TBI, auto, 14x3 chrome flat based open element with K&N, Milodon 160* thermo, functional Formula hood, cross-flow Flowmaster, '99z28 rear pipes and tips....

To be installed eventually far far far into the future: Yours if the price is right and I don't have to ship :
Hooker 1-5/8" 50 state legal headers, Dynomax 3" I pipe (PN 44063 and 43248), Catco 3" cat, and injector spacer.

Super GRK_Taz World
F-Body Dual Exaust
EFI & Intake Options
AOL IM: superGRtaz

 

I happen to like that description wish someone could have told me that when I was first learning. I have a TPI, there made for low end troque TPIS says main power peak is 4500-4700 rpms. Don't get me wrong and think TPI's are all that great either tho. I've read in magazines that stock TPI systems can't make much hp over 350.

 

I personally have no problem with this guys name, but maybe that's because I was on the wrong side of a "change your screen name" debate. <sniff>
Something tells me this guy isn't going to stick around for long, anyways.

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No guts, no glory.

 

thanks for the info guys, I LOVE MY NAME!!! i hope i dont have to change it, just cause its nothing to do with a car... anyways, why is there articles for converting cars to tbi if their less powerfull???and i hope to be around for a while ok

 

It's really not the TBI that's the problem. TBI is the fuel injection method..it's like a computer-controlled carbuerator. TPI is much more advanced, allows for a better burn and torque curve...

It's the heads and cam that really keep the 305 TBI back...as soon as I get my heads...I gonna FLY. :P

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1992 Camaro RS (Auto) 5.0L TBI
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Performance mods
NOS (125 HP shot)
Dynomax cat-back exhaust
Hedman headers
K & N open element/ X-Stream lid
MSD 6A ignition
LT1 camshaft
MSD 8.5mm plug wires
Soon to be installed:
Edelbrock intake manifold
3.42 rear axle
B & M 2400 RPM stall torque converter
Transgo shift kit
Torquer heads

Audio
Sony Xplod CDX-M610 head unit
Pioneer 2-way 4x6 front speakers
Pioneer 3-way 6x9 rear speakers
12 inch Pioneer VCCS PRO subwoofer
QLogic sealed box
Kicker ZR360 amplifier
Lightning Audio 1 farad capacitor

Other
Macewen White Faced Gauges/Shift overlay
A-pillar gauges (Phantom oil pressure, Air/Fuel)
180* thermostat
Window Tint

 

cool that makes me feel better, everyone else made me think i had a pos or something, grr

 

I like TBI!

I would recommend changing your name. Not because it has nothing to do with cars, but it really is in bad taste. Some people will take more offense than others. I promise that you will get more help if you do.

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'87 Silverado
350 4 bolt main bore .040 over
TB Injected
Ported and Polished heads
Comp cams 268h cam and top end
Flowtech headers
3.73s on Detroit locker

 

ok so what if i changed it to livingfetus or something...then would you people quit makin fun of my name....gar, my mother really did try to abort me you know...

 

OH BOY!
This isn't a support-group.
"AnythingFetus" is going to get Tas all riled up.
Try to keep the abortion talk down, while keeping in mind that this is a TBI board.
TBI stands for Throttle Body Injection, not Totally Botched Infanticide.

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No guts, no glory.

[This message has been edited by NTChrist (edited September 17, 2001).]

 

I think he is a full blown retard and is almost as bad as that Cody moron who types in caps all the time.

 

ok if it is such a board, then can someone clear up my inquiry?? what can i do to my tbi such as intake? more like whats my best options, anyway to improbe tbi performance??

 

ok flamer, spurt your un-hetero bs in some other direction, your just pissing me off. dont respond if your not going to answer THE QUESTION. or atleast put something usefull up
ive found this board has helped me learn alot about my car and some of the things i can do with it, much less about cars in general. no one has shown me around cars, besides jeeps, and its not quite the same. its just that its hard to learn when no one will open their mouth with things that are related to the cars, not my person, who you dont even know, if i some how directly insulted you, just kill yourself, itll make you feel better since you act so butthurt

 

Oh yeah, I can tell u learned a lot. You don't even know what TBI looks like compared to TPI And what the hell is butthurt?

To awnser ur question, right now that engine u have is a peice of Sh*T. 170hp,255lbs of tq stock. But the good part is that it can be made into a fast little car. But u have to have lots of cash and knowledge to do so. Cause putting a full exaust system on it is not gonna get u into 14's. Stock times for these cars is around low-mid 16's. Everything came restricted on it, e everything inbetween the air cleaner assembly,to the exaust manifolds/exaust to the rear end 2:73 open differenital (peg-leg posi) So in order to make that LO3 (thats the code for the engine) go, your gonna have to be prepared to change out A LOT of parts on that engine/tranny/rear end and suspension and fork over A LOT of cash. But that all depends on how fast u want to go too.

[This message has been edited by 91Bird305 (edited September 17, 2001).]

 

Hey I have a Jeep. Maybe your not a bad guy afterall http://members.tripod.com/GRK_Taz/wrangler.html

 

Look at the bright side, at least you went with a v8 instead of an import 4-cylinder that can only make 250 hp nearly completely souped up (well realistically souped up). You've got a decent base car to work with. Most guys say start with the cheap and easy. K&N air filter systems, cold air induction, then more stuff like headers, intake, exhaust and heads.

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1988 305 TBI camaro. Flowmaster exhaust, K&N air filter, complete IROC-Z makeover (stripes, ground effects, interior...etc), Kenwood c.d. player, Sony Xplod 6x9's, Blaupunkt 3 1/2's.

 

Only 250? dude I just got a mag where they are pushing 500 HP. Granted they have to spend 3x what we do and they put them in new cars....

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-Tas
'89 Formula WS-6

305, TBI, auto, 14x3 chrome flat based open element with K&N, Milodon 160* thermo, functional Formula hood, cross-flow Flowmaster, '99z28 rear pipes and tips....

To be installed eventually far far far into the future: Yours if the price is right and I don't have to ship :
Hooker 1-5/8" 50 state legal headers, Dynomax 3" I pipe (PN 44063 and 43248), Catco 3" cat, and injector spacer.

Super GRK_Taz World
F-Body Dual Exaust
EFI & Intake Options
AOL IM: superGRtaz

 

Yeah i know, i was exaggerating. But those Honda's can't put that kind of horsepower out. But if you're talking 3000GT or Supra or something, those car's are pretty fast stock, and can get faster pretty inexpensively. I was just trying to reinforce fetus guy that he doesn't have a pos.

 

3000GT or supra can push 800HP+++. I was talking about turbo 4s

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-Tas
'89 Formula WS-6

305, TBI, auto, 14x3 chrome flat based open element with K&N, Milodon 160* thermo, functional Formula hood, cross-flow Flowmaster, '99z28 rear pipes and tips....

To be installed eventually far far far into the future: Yours if the price is right and I don't have to ship :
Hooker 1-5/8" 50 state legal headers, Dynomax 3" I pipe (PN 44063 and 43248), Catco 3" cat, and injector spacer.

Super GRK_Taz World
F-Body Dual Exaust
EFI & Intake Options
AOL IM: superGRtaz

 

this was originally and has become, an un-needed thread. closed.