HELP, IS THIS SAFE????
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HELP, IS THIS SAFE????
A guy on here told me I could just take out my air filter, put in one that is the same diameter but 1 or 2 inches taller, and flip over the cover on my air cleaner, and then tighten it upside down, so about an inch of the air filter is still visible. He said it gave him a significant increase in acceleration, but is that safe?
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Car: 91 maro
Engine: 350
Transmission: 700r4
Axle/Gears: 373 locker
Re: HELP, IS THIS SAFE????
how isnt it safe all ur doin is increasing air flow still got filter its not like dirty air is getting in.have u ever heard of a fliped breather?it will give u a cool sound up front plus increase floww goin into motor id be more worried about them hoses melting on the manifold and cacthin fire i have alote invested in my car i have a new 350 700r4 373pos rear 2000doller set of torq thrust rims set of 400doller seats b&m shifter flowmaster exhaust iam not telling u to hurt ur car but it will look better look at the old chevells they have fliped breatthers gives u that four barrel sound
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u aint gotta do it iam just saying ile send pics of mine but itll be tomorrow
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u aint gotta do it iam just saying ile send pics of mine but itll be tomorrow
Last edited by stevo the torpe; Oct 14, 2007 at 12:35 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
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Re: HELP, IS THIS SAFE????
u wont blow it up i ran the **** out of my 305 for 100000 miles still runs strong make sure ur oil is good and coolant chevys tend to leak oil.my 305 wouldnt blow up the last couple of days i had it in before 350 change the 305 sits in shop nothing wrong with it good motor very good motor
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Re: HELP, IS THIS SAFE????
swee man thanks a lot. We'll see how the race goes. My friend drives a gay *** grand am so I should be fine. But it is an 03' and a GT, but still I should be fine anyway.
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Re: HELP, IS THIS SAFE????
yeah, that is an old hot rodding trick a lot of people used to do , its going to increase the air flow, it isnt going to hurt anything.
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Re: HELP, IS THIS SAFE????
it is NOT going to give you huge gains though. The stock air cleaner is also a muffler of sound. You'll hear more, and maybe get more air, but you wont go much faster. Dont we all wish it was that simple...
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Re: HELP, IS THIS SAFE????
no maybe a 5 or 10 hp gain the tbi just sounds like it has a supercharger idling then it goes away when gas it brought on
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Re: HELP, IS THIS SAFE????
Was it me that told you this? I have done it on my car, and it works great. I will try and get some pics, but all i have is my cell phone for a camera.
On my firebird, the hood will not hit the air cleaner but the insulation will. And when you slam the gears, the lid will JUST BARELY rub the hood, to the point where it cut out a section of the insulation. But no biggie, I have had it like this for 5k miles now and the air cleaner stud is fine. Also, though, you loose the thermac valve. I drove all the way back to NH tonight and the car never warmed up over 100 miles, but that could be also a stuck thermostat on my part.
Finally, the cost/benefit it great. It makes a *** dyno difference in the upper RPM's, but just barely. The coolest thing is the noise it makes. Sounds like a regular LO3 cruising, but near WOT when it hits Power Enrichment, it sounds like a big 4bbl with the mechanical secondaries slamming home!
[edit] btw, if you are gonna race, just a short distance, you can flip the lid upside down without a taller filter. It wont be as high, but you will get a 1/4 inch of un-filtered cold air to race with. Then just flip it back up regular after the race. However, if your motor sucks in a rock or something and blows up it's not my fault
On my firebird, the hood will not hit the air cleaner but the insulation will. And when you slam the gears, the lid will JUST BARELY rub the hood, to the point where it cut out a section of the insulation. But no biggie, I have had it like this for 5k miles now and the air cleaner stud is fine. Also, though, you loose the thermac valve. I drove all the way back to NH tonight and the car never warmed up over 100 miles, but that could be also a stuck thermostat on my part.
Finally, the cost/benefit it great. It makes a *** dyno difference in the upper RPM's, but just barely. The coolest thing is the noise it makes. Sounds like a regular LO3 cruising, but near WOT when it hits Power Enrichment, it sounds like a big 4bbl with the mechanical secondaries slamming home!
[edit] btw, if you are gonna race, just a short distance, you can flip the lid upside down without a taller filter. It wont be as high, but you will get a 1/4 inch of un-filtered cold air to race with. Then just flip it back up regular after the race. However, if your motor sucks in a rock or something and blows up it's not my fault
Last edited by slow_90firebird; Oct 14, 2007 at 10:01 PM.
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Re: HELP, IS THIS SAFE????
You get your power from being able to inhale more airflow. The stock setup sucks threw a very small portion of the air cleaner (know as the snorkel)
Best thing to do is just get an open element air cleaner with a good high flow filter.
I seen a huge gain at the track with the lid off/on 4/10's of a gain with it off. But this was with cam, and headers.
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Re: Do I get rid of the snorkel and intake hose then?
You can, but you really dont need to. I left them on just because if I ever want to convert back I can buy a stock filter, and flip the lid right back. Especially, I wouldnt cut the snorkel off that is a waste of a good aircleaner housing.
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