Fuel Pressure Regulator
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Fuel Pressure Regulator
Who makes a decent vacuum adjustable regulator that fits in the stock TBI location?
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Re: Fuel Pressure Regulator
On edit: I was going to point you to TDS for a factory GM regulator, but they don't appear to sell them anymore, just the stiffer spring.
You might see if your GM dealer can get you a stock vafpr that was used on the 454 trucks.
With that said, it's a real bear, if not impossible to tune around with a stock ECM. Rbob's EBL system has a table just for vafpr and takes all the guess work out of it and properly scales the injector size for each step in vaccume. On a stock ecm you can crutch the VE tables to get the fuel right, but there is no good way to crutch the pump shot so you can't really get a pump shot that is repeatable as the injector size is moving all over the place.
You might see if your GM dealer can get you a stock vafpr that was used on the 454 trucks.
With that said, it's a real bear, if not impossible to tune around with a stock ECM. Rbob's EBL system has a table just for vafpr and takes all the guess work out of it and properly scales the injector size for each step in vaccume. On a stock ecm you can crutch the VE tables to get the fuel right, but there is no good way to crutch the pump shot so you can't really get a pump shot that is repeatable as the injector size is moving all over the place.
Last edited by BMmonteSS; Dec 31, 2007 at 08:29 PM.
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Re: Fuel Pressure Regulator
What do you mean when you say the injector size is moving all over the place ? Also what year model & platform do you speak of for the adjustable regulator?
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Re: Fuel Pressure Regulator
When the vaccume changes the fuel pressure changes, the problem is that the ECM doesn't know that the fuel pressure is changing. So it's like your injectors are constantly changing sizes.
The trick is to just tune the VE curve and not really worry that it looks all screwy as you are just tuning around the changing fuel pressure.
The part that you can't tune around is the pump shot as there is no way to tune it for the changing fuel pressure.
The trick is to just tune the VE curve and not really worry that it looks all screwy as you are just tuning around the changing fuel pressure.
The part that you can't tune around is the pump shot as there is no way to tune it for the changing fuel pressure.
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Re: Fuel Pressure Regulator
Thought that was what you meant BMmonte. If I were any better at math I would try to log the pressure increase/vacuum decrease vs. TPS timeframe, apply that to my inj output calc,and apply that to the AE airflow calc, but I usually get lost about halfway through on such things!
Re: Fuel Pressure Regulator
GM #17113186 - GM Adjustable Fuel Pressure Regulator. This is the one I purchased awhile back, but I think it's been discontinued. I've never used it so I can't tell you how it works though.
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Re: Fuel Pressure Regulator
When the vaccume changes the fuel pressure changes, the problem is that the ECM doesn't know that the fuel pressure is changing. So it's like your injectors are constantly changing sizes.
The trick is to just tune the VE curve and not really worry that it looks all screwy as you are just tuning around the changing fuel pressure.
The part that you can't tune around is the pump shot as there is no way to tune it for the changing fuel pressure.
The trick is to just tune the VE curve and not really worry that it looks all screwy as you are just tuning around the changing fuel pressure.
The part that you can't tune around is the pump shot as there is no way to tune it for the changing fuel pressure.
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Re: Fuel Pressure Regulator
Found the part at SDP but no picture. Is it both vacuum regulated and manually adjustable?
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