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Old Jan 21, 2008 | 03:50 PM
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Car: 1990 Firebird Formula
Engine: 305 TBI
Transmission: 700R4
Cylinder missing?

I have this wierd problem that pops up every once in a while with my
LO3. What happens is from idle the tachometer bounces around all crazy like and when im driving, under acceleration, the engine kinda bucks and it feels like its missing. If i keep the pedal down the engine almost stalls, but it drives ok if i feather the pedal a bit. whats happening here? it hasnt done this in over two months so i kinda let it go.

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Old Jan 21, 2008 | 03:54 PM
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From: Fairhope, AL
Car: 89RS(other cars & pics in vBgarage)
Engine: LO3, 305 TBI Mildly Modified
Transmission: BakerBuilt 700R4 w/B&M Megashifter
Axle/Gears: 3.23 Auburn Pro Series LSD
Re: Cylinder missing?

tune up status??? IE how long ago and what brand cap, rotor, wires, and plugs........ we will see what we can do
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Old Jan 21, 2008 | 03:54 PM
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Re: Cylinder missing?

A jumping tach is usually some sort of ignition problem.
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Old Jan 21, 2008 | 03:58 PM
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Car: 90 Firebird Formula
Engine: LO3
Transmission: T5
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Re: Cylinder missing?

Replace the ignition module inside the distributor cap. It is that thing that sits right on the base, and has the 2 pin plug on it i think, maybe 3 pin plug.

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Old Jan 21, 2008 | 04:04 PM
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Car: 1990 Firebird Formula
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Re: Cylinder missing?

Cap, rotor, plugs and wires all replaced when i bought the car in September. Ignition coil, pick up, and ignition module all replaced a month later. I figured it was some kind of igniton problem but i dont know what it is because it comes and goes.
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Old Jan 21, 2008 | 04:08 PM
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From: Fairhope, AL
Car: 89RS(other cars & pics in vBgarage)
Engine: LO3, 305 TBI Mildly Modified
Transmission: BakerBuilt 700R4 w/B&M Megashifter
Axle/Gears: 3.23 Auburn Pro Series LSD
Re: Cylinder missing?

could be that module if it comes and goes, i would recomend getting a accel brand module or another one from jegs or summit, the ones at autoparts stores are crap in my opinion and i used to work at a autoparts store, i never got with OEM replacement parts, always upgrade on stuff like that
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Old Jan 21, 2008 | 04:11 PM
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Re: Cylinder missing?

ok, any chance it could be a bad plug?
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Old Jan 21, 2008 | 04:17 PM
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Engine: LO3, 305 TBI Mildly Modified
Transmission: BakerBuilt 700R4 w/B&M Megashifter
Axle/Gears: 3.23 Auburn Pro Series LSD
Re: Cylinder missing?

yea, especialy if they are boushs, if they are throw them at slowstangs as you pass, lol use ac delcos, i got ac delco rapid fires, if they arnt boushs clean the real good and see what that does, also check to see that your cap and rotor are good and clean
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Old Jan 21, 2008 | 05:08 PM
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Re: Cylinder missing?

If the tach is bouncing all over the place, there is a pretty good chance it is the ign module. Even a new one can be bad, if you get it at a parts store.

I got a new Ign module and other stuff in my reman dizzy at autozone, but it is all "cardone" brand. No problems there, works awesome.

Autozone should be able to test the module to see if it is bad. You have to remove it from the car tho. Also, sometimes they test good, and can still be bad, because they will tend to act up more as the engine and dizzy get hot.
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Old Jan 21, 2008 | 08:52 PM
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Axle/Gears: ferd 9" posi 3.50 gears
Re: Cylinder missing?

I went through the same things for months, every time I would replace the module it would clear up for a week or so. It got to the point I would just swap back in a "bad" module and it would run fine for a week. Ended up being a bad ground inside the dissy that I would jiggle every time i would replace the module. Tightened up the screw and the problems disapeared.
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Old Jan 22, 2008 | 04:30 PM
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Re: Cylinder missing?

I used to get the same problem with my TBI & it was always a bad plug wire boot that would burn & acr to the manifold (GM rams horn). Replace the wire & it was fine. Check all of your wires to make sure they are not arcing.
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