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Old Oct 15, 2011 | 01:22 PM
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350 Fuel injectors swap in on 305 TB?

hello there i swapped my LO3 for a LO5 slighty built ,mild cam 305 heads(.60ovr with stock int exh valves) edelbrock intake, Jegs headers , and i left the 305 throttlebody on at swap (with ECM) and it ran fine a little rough idle but thats it. So now i want to release the inner beast of the 350 so i ordered the EBL flash and i am getting ready to get a new throttlebody but i cannot find a website that sells TBI throttle bodys!! so i was wondering, do 350 fuel injectors swap in on 305 TB? if so what is needed to be done or.... what websites sell TB units (everything though fuel injector, pod,ect) Thank you all for your help.
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Old Oct 15, 2011 | 02:17 PM
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Re: 350 Fuel injectors swap in on 305 TB?

http://www.tbiparts.com/

http://www.rvmorsemachine.com/product.htm

Yes, the injectors fit the same.
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Old Oct 16, 2011 | 03:37 PM
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Re: 350 Fuel injectors swap in on 305 TB?

ok so i should be fine them with just getting 5.7 fuel injectors then correct? i am going to go with the 61 fuel injectors because of the 305 heads on 350(dont want no knock) is the pressure the same? as in i dont have to change anything else just swap in fuel injectors and start motor? Thanks for your input
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Old Oct 16, 2011 | 07:53 PM
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Re: 350 Fuel injectors swap in on 305 TB?

just swap the injectors out in the throttle body. IMO i would go ahead and mod the fuel pressure regulator so you can adjust the fuel pressure up slightly, it'll help the car run better/stronger, yet use more gas. Thier is a sticky for this I believe it is in the ultimate tbi mods...I think you messed up running the 305 heads on the 350, depending on the engine, the combustion chamber sizes are different and that will affect the compression ratio
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Old Oct 16, 2011 | 10:10 PM
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Re: 350 Fuel injectors swap in on 305 TB?

That is the point of the heads on it for compression.
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Old Oct 17, 2011 | 11:27 AM
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Re: 350 Fuel injectors swap in on 305 TB?

A better flowing head on it would have been a better choice the compression bump up isnt worth the loss of air flow
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Old Oct 17, 2011 | 04:12 PM
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Re: 350 Fuel injectors swap in on 305 TB?

Correct but this motor never reaches above 4500rpm. Ported heads btw I mean not much better but better than stock. Run Em? U live in mantweka I live in methdesto were close
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Old Oct 17, 2011 | 04:15 PM
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Re: 350 Fuel injectors swap in on 305 TB?

And by the way every where Iam looking says the 5.7 TBI fuel injectors are 55PPH is that correct? I thought they were 61pph? Some one correct me please
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Old Oct 17, 2011 | 05:42 PM
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Re: 350 Fuel injectors swap in on 305 TB?

The injectors from 5.7 pickups and vans that end in 206 are rated at #55. Cop car ones supposedly #66 but much harder to come across
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Old Oct 17, 2011 | 06:36 PM
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Re: 350 Fuel injectors swap in on 305 TB?

we can race at one of our many Nor cal GTG's at the racetrack someday for sure
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Old Oct 17, 2011 | 08:55 PM
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Re: 350 Fuel injectors swap in on 305 TB?

cool deal man, its nice to see a city close to me , we need a 3rd gen round up on the west coast!! Thank you henryd3 just wanted to make sure i have the correct fuel injectors before i swap them. what do the 305 fuel injectors run at ? just curious
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Old Oct 17, 2011 | 09:01 PM
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Re: 350 Fuel injectors swap in on 305 TB?

Originally Posted by Ghettobird52
cool deal man, its nice to see a city close to me , we need a 3rd gen round up on the west coast!! Thank you henryd3 just wanted to make sure i have the correct fuel injectors before i swap them. what do the 305 fuel injectors run at ? just curious
The 279s are supposed to be rated at #40
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Old Oct 17, 2011 | 09:29 PM
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Re: 350 Fuel injectors swap in on 305 TB?

Post in the Nor Cal section once in awhile and sign up for the mailing list, keep u updated on any get togethers..(gtg) that we do. Id love to check out the car someday either way
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Old Oct 17, 2011 | 10:09 PM
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ah ok cool i didnt know there was a board for that ill check it out. and yah my project is finally starting to come together. i am now just waiting for my ebl flash for some real power to come out. so i figure 279 run at 40 350 run at 55 so 305 run sme where around 47?
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Re: 350 Fuel injectors swap in on 305 TB?

IF YOU WOULD ACTUALLY READ THE STICKIES LIKE YOU HAD SAID TO ME ON MY THREAD, YOU WOULD NOT BE ASKING THESE QUESTIONS.
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Old Oct 18, 2011 | 09:17 AM
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Re: 350 Fuel injectors swap in on 305 TB?

Originally Posted by Ghettobird52
ah ok cool i didnt know there was a board for that ill check it out. and yah my project is finally starting to come together. i am now just waiting for my ebl flash for some real power to come out. so i figure 279 run at 40 350 run at 55 so 305 run sme where around 47?
279 refers to the last three numbers on the 305 injectors
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Old Oct 18, 2011 | 10:54 AM
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Re: 350 Fuel injectors swap in on 305 TB?

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IF YOU WOULD ACTUALLY READ THE STICKIES LIKE YOU HAD SAID TO ME ON MY THREAD, YOU WOULD NOT BE ASKING THESE QUESTIONS.
My friend I did not state "I already read all the stickies I know but I'm still asking this." no I did not say that like you buddy, and I answered your question on your last thread but you opened a new one WITH THE SAME QUESTION. Oh ok i get it thanks Henry
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Re: 350 Fuel injectors swap in on 305 TB?

I'm not here to start an argument, I'm here to get help before I dump $2000 of hard earned cash into my engine bay. So please bare with me. I'm new to this tbi stuff.
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Old Oct 18, 2011 | 02:27 PM
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Re: 350 Fuel injectors swap in on 305 TB?

Me neither we shuld be friends not enemies I just don't like hondas. Anyways do what most do swap ur 305 for a 350 keep all your accessories and go ebl flash. No ECM swapping or chip burning plug ebl flash in an start tuning it. I did my 350 TBI swap a year ago and ran ok on 305 ECM and fuel injectors. But now I am turning it into a real 350. And might be a little more than that depending on what you do... My project started 2 1/2 years ago.
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Old Oct 18, 2011 | 02:28 PM
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Re: 350 Fuel injectors swap in on 305 TB?

It is also my daily driver that's why I went ebl flash. I have seen Some amazing numbers from 350 tbi's on it.
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Re: 350 Fuel injectors swap in on 305 TB?

Originally Posted by Ghettobird52
It is also my daily driver that's why I went ebl flash. I have seen Some amazing numbers from 350 tbi's on it.
awsome thanks
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Old Oct 18, 2011 | 02:38 PM
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Re: 350 Fuel injectors swap in on 305 TB?

It's really the best of the best for your tbi and supposedly as said by MANY " it gets your tbi as good as it will ever come" so I had to finally order mine. I am tracking my package on ups like a hawk.
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Re: 350 Fuel injectors swap in on 305 TB?

yeah i got mine a couple months ago, havnt done the full tune yet as i was fighting fuel gremlins. going to work on it some tonight
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Old Oct 18, 2011 | 02:48 PM
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Re: 350 Fuel injectors swap in on 305 TB?

That is funny I am fighting fuel problems right now, my passenger Side fuel injector is dumping fuel out and actual drips of fuel are dripping off it my driver side fuel injector is perfect spray. That's why I decided to get ebl is because I decided to finally put a 350 throttle body on an I knew I was gonna need a tune so I wanted to do items right way. How modded is your engine? And how hard was it to get a tune going nice at first?
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Where did you order it?
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Re: 350 Fuel injectors swap in on 305 TB?

Who did you order it from? Also is there a sicky on how to install it in your ecm?
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Dynamicefi.com

Check it out. And for self install you Need soldering skills. I got already installed ECM for extra $$ but well worth it if you don't wanna rip apart your ECM besides nice to have a back up ECM.
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Re: 350 Fuel injectors swap in on 305 TB?

Originally Posted by Ghettobird52
And by the way every where Iam looking says the 5.7 TBI fuel injectors are 55PPH is that correct? I thought they were 61pph? Some one correct me please
The colors are paint dabs on the center post of the injector. Over time the fuel fumes erases them. The codes shown are laser engraved on the top of the injector. The flow ratings are at 13 psi.

5.0L GRN/WHT 55#/hr
GM5235279*RPD

5.0L GRN/WHT 55#/hr
GM5235209*RPD

350 5.7L ORG/BLK 61#/HR
GM5235206*RPD
5235905*ACR

454 7.4L Dark BLU/RED 80.5#/HR
GM5235231*ACR

454 7.4L PNK/PRPL 46#/HR <- be careful of these, GM used 30 psi of fuel pressure to feed the 454.
17104288*ACR

There are also some 65#/hr and 68#/hr injectors that use the YEL/BRN code. These are found on the newer 5.7L TBI setups (trucks & cars).

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Old Oct 18, 2011 | 04:58 PM
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Re: 350 Fuel injectors swap in on 305 TB?

Thanks rbob for that. I thought 350 was that. I jus popped my hood took look at my 1 1/2 year old injectors on my tb and they are white but Slighty yellow looks like decoloration though from the fumes. Any how thanks all
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Re: 350 Fuel injectors swap in on 305 TB?

consider FIC injectors for rebuilt units. FIC=fuel injector connection? Highly recommended.

they have a video on corvette forum
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