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Old Mar 25, 2003 | 12:25 PM
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MY blinkers BLINK SLOWLY but I don't have a relay for them

I have a 91 Z28 and, according to my chiltons manual and various other informational literature- I dont have a relay for my blinkers
In my convinience(sp?) center, i have the buzzer, a round silver relay and a square relay- i was told the the round one was the hazard one and the square one was something else- can someone clarify this for me? my blinkers act retarded and it's embarrasing to have them on at night since they're so slow. someone help before i admit my Z into the mental hospital!!
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Old Mar 25, 2003 | 12:29 PM
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Most of the time when that happens to me I've found a burned out bulb or even a bulb just about to go. Check 'em.

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Old Mar 25, 2003 | 12:34 PM
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1st thing I'd check is the fluid level in the flasher unit. Easy fix.
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Old Mar 25, 2003 | 12:47 PM
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Oops. Forgot about the blinker fluid.
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Old Mar 25, 2003 | 12:47 PM
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The flasher unit in the convenience center is the one for the turn signals. The one in the fuse box is the hazards. Change out whichever one you don't like, put in the kind that's for towing.

Make sure all the bulbs are working.... if one or more is out, the blinkers will blink very slowly, or not at all (come on and stay on).

And make sure you change the blinker fluid, and recycle the old stuff.
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Old Mar 25, 2003 | 04:24 PM
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Easy way to find it...turn your key up to the 'run' position, activate the turn signal switch (doesn't matter which direction), and listen around for the clicking. In all my thirdgens, they have been located near the convenience center on their own plug; sometimes still clipped to the metal frame around it.

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PS: GM's red blinker fluid is much better than the generic blue stuff.
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Old Mar 25, 2003 | 04:30 PM
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Really? I like the green synthetic stuff myself. Gives the blinkers more HP, and I can go twice as many miles without having to change it.
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Old Mar 25, 2003 | 05:12 PM
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There's green stuff available now? Haven't seen that yet
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Oh, wait....that's because I don't peruse the 'ric<x>er's aisles at the local parts stores....

Damn, I remember a couple years ago telling someone to go to the parts counter and ask for some blinker fluid....and they actually went and did just that
I would liked to have been a fly on the wall that day...

Pete
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Old Mar 25, 2003 | 05:15 PM
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I personaly use the KaleCO Synthetic blinker fluid...

I copied this directly from the website:

Are you blinkers sluggish? Do they make an annoying ticking noise? Do they not flash fast enough? Here's your solution. Little do people know, blinker fluid should be changed every 150,000 blinks! KaleCo high quality synthetic blinker fluid meets the highest D.O.T. standards! KaleCo blinker fluid provides you with thousands of hours of reliable blinking without the wear and tear on the flash-synchro's that the other blinker fluids cause! KaleCo blinker fluid will not lose its viscosity, even in the most extreme situations! Why buy that old dino-blinker fluid, when you can get our unique patented synthetic formula? Satisfaction guaranteed!! For use in any car.

BTW: It's $5.99 a bottle.

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Old Mar 25, 2003 | 07:02 PM
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Originally posted by Petes 84Z28
There's green stuff available now? Haven't seen that yet
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Oh, wait....that's because I don't peruse the 'ric<x>er's aisles at the local parts stores....

Damn, I remember a couple years ago telling someone to go to the parts counter and ask for some blinker fluid....and they actually went and did just that
I would liked to have been a fly on the wall that day...

Pete

Yeah ******* that was me, about 3 years ago!
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Old Mar 25, 2003 | 07:22 PM
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blinker fluid

if you come to my garage ill change your blinker fluid for free with the purchase of new muffler bearings or johnson vavles...what a deal...

just call at...1-800-idneverbecaughtdeadinamustang!
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Old Mar 25, 2003 | 07:55 PM
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ok for real people- i turned the blinker on and pulled ALL THE RELAYS in the convinience center and the blinker still blinks- shouldnt it not work w/o the relay? any advice would help, besides the blinker fluid stuff..
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Old Mar 25, 2003 | 08:28 PM
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Take the relay and soak it in cider ...no really here...is your alternator charging correctly? A low charge will also cause what you are describing
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Old Mar 25, 2003 | 09:07 PM
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how do you know if the alternator is charging correctly? i have no trouble starting the car or anything
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Old Mar 26, 2003 | 04:55 AM
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what is the volt meter reading on your dash, when the car is running? it should show between 13-15...are your headlights and acc. all working properly, fan speed..brightness? Just another possibility..the flasher is in the convienience center...hold on Ill see if I can get my scanner to work..
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Old Mar 26, 2003 | 05:04 AM
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no luck ..nothing but black..guess ive worn it out Anyway the Chiltons manual has a pretty good pic on page 6-37...buy the book , it comes in pretty handy sometimes...it states...
" The turn signal flasher is located inside the convenience center. In order to gain access to the turn signal flasher, it may be necessary to first remove the under dash padding"
It is with the horn relay seatbelt-ignition key headlight buzzer. Choke relay,Hazard flasher, all on a board together the signal flasher is the round object at the front and left side of the board..hazard flasher front right...

Hope this helps some....

Ps it is not on the fuse block!

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Old Mar 26, 2003 | 05:34 AM
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voltmeter is reading normal, everything works fine except when my left or right blinker is on- if i turn the hazards on, they blink nice and quick, like normal- but when i have either blinker on... SLOOOOOOWW..
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Old Mar 26, 2003 | 05:46 AM
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Have you checked all the suggestions you have received? A short will also cause slow flashers.
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Old Mar 26, 2003 | 10:50 AM
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you could try replacing the flasher.

i know, it's tough to come up with the whole 2 dollars...


no but seriously, i was having a similar problem - blinkers went really slow, hazards were fine. changed the flasher, problem fixed.

also, when my alternator died, while it was still kind of working, the blinkers were going disgustingly slow.
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Old Mar 26, 2003 | 11:25 AM
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Originally posted by LYV18F
you could try replacing the flasher.

i know, it's tough to come up with the whole 2 dollars...


no but seriously, i was having a similar problem - blinkers went really slow, hazards were fine. changed the flasher, problem fixed.

also, when my alternator died, while it was still kind of working, the blinkers were going disgustingly slow.
How dare you! $2 is alot of money! Just ask the guy living under the overpass!
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Old Mar 26, 2003 | 12:04 PM
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ok i'll try replacing the flasher-- i'll let ya'll know
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Old Mar 26, 2003 | 04:15 PM
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UPDATE

welli looked in the chiltons manual again and according to the 90-92 diagram, THERE IS NO BLINKER RELAY- theres a horn relay, hazard flasher(the silver, round one) and the alarm assembly(the big black one) what do i do know i'm clueless? if theres no relay to replace, then what causes it to blink soooooo slllloooooowww..
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Old Mar 26, 2003 | 04:42 PM
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did you try replacing the flasher?
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Old Mar 26, 2003 | 04:46 PM
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there has to be a flasher... Or you will wear out your turnsignal lever!!!! Maybe try some blinker fluid..I think Amsol has a prettygood product! No seriously, My 89 has it....I'm stumped sorry I couldnt be more help....
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Old Mar 26, 2003 | 04:47 PM
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i turned the blinkers on and pulled the flasher-- shouldnt that kill the blinkers? would they work even without the flasher plugged in?
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Old Mar 26, 2003 | 04:47 PM
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Originally posted by LYV18F
did you try replacing the flasher?
he doesnt have one....
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Old Mar 26, 2003 | 04:49 PM
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wich flasher did you pull...the one on the left is signal flasher the one on the right is hazzards...pull the flasher then try your hazzards
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Old Mar 26, 2003 | 05:12 PM
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i pulled everything int he convinience center and the blinkers still worked
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Old Mar 26, 2003 | 05:17 PM
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LOL...Ya got me...now I'm thinking short...but thats an easy out ..I really have no Idea what to say......
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Old Mar 26, 2003 | 05:20 PM
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ANYONE ELSE?? 91 Z28s dont have a signal flasher- hazard-yes, signal flasher-- no i dont get it??
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Old Mar 26, 2003 | 06:25 PM
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Originally posted by Riley's35089rs+
he doesnt have one....
yea, he does. i have a 91 z 28, i have one. i replaced it

Originally posted by 91 Camaro Z28
ANYONE ELSE?? 91 Z28s dont have a signal flasher- hazard-yes, signal flasher-- no i dont get it??
there's only one reason, your car is haunted. you might want to invest in an exorsism (sp?).

no but seriously, take it to a car parts store and show somebody there. it's hard to give advice about stuff like this over the internet because we can't see what you see
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Old Mar 26, 2003 | 06:31 PM
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LYV18F- where is your signal flasher?? if you can describe it to me, i'll be able to find it THANKS
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Old Mar 26, 2003 | 06:38 PM
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it was under the steering column right next to the fuses - pain in the *** to get too. it's the cylinder shaped shiny metal thing.

http://www.gm-trucks.com/IAR_ElectronicFlasher.shtml
that's a link for gm trucks, but it's the same idea...
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Old Mar 26, 2003 | 06:44 PM
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I know he has one ....he just cant find what we are describing....you may have to move some insulation around to find it...
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Old Mar 27, 2003 | 10:39 AM
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This is what my Helms manual says for a 92 bird:
"The turn signal flasher is clipped to the fuse block mounting bracket behind the instrument panel to the left of the steering column."
Shouldn't be much different on your car.
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Old Mar 27, 2003 | 12:17 PM
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any idea what it looks like?
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Old Mar 27, 2003 | 12:18 PM
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any idea what it looks like?
go to the link i posted...
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Old Mar 27, 2003 | 12:37 PM
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ahhhh, i think i got it now, thanks LYV18F you rock!!:hail:
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Old Mar 27, 2003 | 12:53 PM
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Originally posted by RB83L69
Really? I like the green synthetic stuff myself. Gives the blinkers more HP, and I can go twice as many miles without having to change it.
The green is harder to find (must be an AMSOIL proprietary thing), so I settle for the blue synthetic. Just make sure you get the correct voltage fluid. Check out these guys, they have all the cool shiznit:
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Old Mar 27, 2003 | 01:23 PM
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ok well thats was easy- i replaced the flasher that I FINALLY FOUND for 2 bucks and now we're good as new. The blinker fluid resevoir was full so i had to return the bottle i bought- can never be too cautious though
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Old Mar 27, 2003 | 03:35 PM
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damn ..no takers?
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