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Old Apr 1, 2003 | 03:36 PM
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87 Formula, What wire is this that goes to the Starter(pic)

It looks like another Accessory wire, but theres no fusable link and its got the goofie end.
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Old Apr 1, 2003 | 03:51 PM
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That's the Solenoid wire... the one that carries the power to make the starter to start starting..... goes to the "S" terminal on the Solenoid, which is the small one closer to the block
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Old Apr 2, 2003 | 09:53 AM
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Ok I thought it was that black wire. Notice the Black our dark color wire I have hooked up to the solinoid, where does that go?
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Old Apr 3, 2003 | 12:45 PM
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hmmm thays a good question
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Old Apr 3, 2003 | 12:48 PM
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The solenoid wire should be purple. I don't know of any black wire down there unless there's a ground wire in your particular car, or unless it's the battery feed for some accessory such as an amp.

Might be worth checking which one of those 2 gets 12V when you turn the key to Start, before you button it up.
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Old Apr 3, 2003 | 10:35 PM
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Are you sure it's not for something else like the temp. switch?
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Old Apr 3, 2003 | 10:48 PM
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You can see the wire in that pic. See it its black and smaller, the one at the top.
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Old Apr 3, 2003 | 11:30 PM
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The solenoid wire is purple. The wires that should go to the batt terminal are red, and have fusible links for their last few inches.

I can't guess what the black wire is. I'm fairly sure it's either not factory, or goes somewhere else. In GM wiring, black is almost always ground. Nothing else.

Yes, I'm sure. GM has been using that same color code at least as far back as the 50s.
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Old Apr 4, 2003 | 06:44 PM
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See but those wires the big one shown and little one go to the positive side of the cable. Heres a pic.
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Old Apr 4, 2003 | 07:05 PM
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Id have to say that doesn't look stock to me.
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Old Apr 4, 2003 | 08:24 PM
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What are you posting this for? How are we supposed to guess how your car has been hacked? You're the one looking at it, we can't see it, I can tell you all day long what wires GM put where, but that might or might not do you a damn bit of good. GM didn't use a bunch of wire nuts, you can believe that.

If you've got a wire nut under the hood, you've got problems. Somebody that didn't know what they're doing has been there and sodomized your wiring, and didn't even give it a reach-around.

That blob of crap in the wire nut is amazing. There's nothing even remotely like that in a stock wiring harness. I'm afraid you're going to have to learn how wiring works, my friend.... and un-fornicate that whole mess.
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Old Apr 5, 2003 | 02:20 AM
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Well RB is a little more harsh then he usually is, but he is essentially correct. You need to chase the wires all the way back and find out where they are coming from. Shoot us a line when you find this out, and we can probably help you with the problem.
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Old Apr 5, 2003 | 08:28 AM
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I agree, I was a bit harsh...

But the fact remains the same. If the wiring has been all cut up and tinkered with like that, there'a absolutely no way for somebody over the Internet to look at a pic of 6" of it, and guess where the other end goes. You've got a mess on your hands, and just identifying that one piece of wire, isn't going to clear it up. What you should do is identify the factory wiring, hook it back up like it belongs, and then figure out what the rest of it is, that's been added. And whatever you do, get rid of the wire nuts; they won't stand up to the undehood environment, you'll have intermittents and burned up connections at that point.
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Old Apr 7, 2003 | 12:54 AM
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Originally posted by RB83L69
What are you posting this for? How are we supposed to guess how your car has been hacked? You're the one looking at it, we can't see it, I can tell you all day long what wires GM put where, but that might or might not do you a damn bit of good. GM didn't use a bunch of wire nuts, you can believe that.

If you've got a wire nut under the hood, you've got problems. Somebody that didn't know what they're doing has been there and sodomized your wiring, and didn't even give it a reach-around.

That blob of crap in the wire nut is amazing. There's nothing even remotely like that in a stock wiring harness. I'm afraid you're going to have to learn how wiring works, my friend.... and un-fornicate that whole mess.
How does that go? Dont assume things because you will make an *** of U and ME. Hey everyone look at the "BLOB of Wires" 3 wires on the Positive, WARNING WARNING!! We have a possible Blob effect. You assume that the harness is hacked when in fact the harness is untouched and is in its original state.

So someone with some what of a knoweldge base of the wiring unlike Shooter over here, have any other Idea?
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Old Apr 7, 2003 | 01:55 AM
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How about this... If you have a voltmeter or even a simple test light, have someone turn the key forward as if you were starting the car and watch the voltmeter/test light to see which wire lights up or has 12Volts on it. To be sure, have that someone turn the key on and off and see if the light/voltage goes on/off !
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Old Apr 7, 2003 | 05:39 AM
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I apologize... I see that the thing youhave there is the battery cable. I'm sorry, I'm an electronic person by trade at this time, and things people do to their wiring bother me greatly.

Of the wires in your hand (that terminate at the battery), the big one goes to the starter (duh); the real small one with the Weatherpak connector is power to the ECM; and the mid-size one goes to the alternator.

The purple wire still is supposed to go to the "S" terminal of the solenoid.

Do you perhaps have the alt wire connected at the starter?
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Old Apr 7, 2003 | 09:36 AM
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does anyone know what wires should go to the starter on a regular non computerized carburator car? i recently did a swap from a 2.8 to 350 and the car has power inside and out, the starter is getting power, and the purple wire is hooked up to the s terminal, but when i turn the key i get nothing. any ideas?
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