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Old 07-31-2000, 08:26 PM
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Car: 1984 Trans Am WS6
Engine: Minirammed 385, 396 RWHP
Transmission: T56
Axle/Gears: 3.73 Moser 12-bolt
Planning a Minirammed 383: Insight needed.

Okay experts,
I just put a deposit on a fully ported Miniram with 58mm throttle body and balanced 30 lb injectors.

I have in my garage, on the engine stand, a 4-bolt main 383 block with 5.565" con rods, cast crank, and forged pistons. I also have a set of roller retrofit lifters for the engine, but have not yet picked out the EFI computer, cam, or cylinder heads.

How would I best utilize the miniram with said shortblock? This will back up a 700R4, be normally aspirated, and will rev to 6250 RPM. Would AFR 190's be the best choice? How about cam? .540 inches of lift, 230 degrees duration @ .050" ??

Should I go FP performance, so that I can individualy trim each injector's pulse width?

What do you think?


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Old 07-31-2000, 08:46 PM
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Sounds fine. I don't think you need any insight...Also sounds familiar, except for my Vortech.

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I am building the same motor, so lets make a deal and send eachother all the info we get. As for heads, I have heard that the Brodiz track heads are a better choice than the AFRs are.

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Car: 1984 Trans Am WS6
Engine: Minirammed 385, 396 RWHP
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Why do you think the Brodix are a better cylinder head? Combustion chamber design? out-of-the-box flow? Price? What's better? Perhaps this is worth taking to a different thread.

My 383 engine project is going to take about 18 months to complete. Expect it to start running in the spring of 2002. I still need to tear down the shortblock, magnaflux everything, and have the reciprocating assembly inspected shot peened, and balanced. Since the bores still have crosshatch from the last rebuild, it looks like a relatively low-mileage 383 conversion so it might not cost much to finish. I'm concerned about using a cast crank & the short 400 rods at 6250 RPM and 425 horsepower... Anyone have any experience?

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Originally posted by ws6transam:
Why do you think the Brodix are a better cylinder head? Combustion chamber design? out-of-the-box flow? Price? What's better? Perhaps this is worth taking to a different thread.

My 383 engine project is going to take about 18 months to complete. Expect it to start running in the spring of 2002. I still need to tear down the shortblock, magnaflux everything, and have the reciprocating assembly inspected shot peened, and balanced. Since the bores still have crosshatch from the last rebuild, it looks like a relatively low-mileage 383 conversion so it might not cost much to finish. I'm concerned about using a cast crank & the short 400 rods at 6250 RPM and 425 horsepower... Anyone have any experience?

ws,

It's probably wise to be concerned about the 400 rods going to 6250 RPM. I think the crank is marginal at that RPM too. Have you considered the GM powdered metal 5.7 rods ?

I've seen them advertised as low as $146 for eight. That is very cheap insurance, especially since they're rated to 450 HP. Also, the SCAT crank (new) is only $269 from Jegs. So, for an additional $415, you can build a reliable 6,250 RPM motor.

You've got forged pistons, right?

Good luck.

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I've got brand new ported Track 1 heads for sale cheap, if interested.
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Car: 1984 Trans Am WS6
Engine: Minirammed 385, 396 RWHP
Transmission: T56
Axle/Gears: 3.73 Moser 12-bolt
The pistons are stamped with a number: 2244P. I'm hoping that these are forged! If not, then you are probably right: Replace the reciprocating assembly with a SCAT crank, GM "pink" PM rods, and forged pistons.

I might just place this assembly into a different block (I have two) and sell it as a stroker torque TPI engine.

As for the Track 1 heads, sorry! I have a monthly budget that I (unsuccessfully) try to stay in. Currently, I won't be able to get the heads until mid-2001. I'm going to budget $1500 for the heads.

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