Tech / General Engine Is your car making a strange sound or won't start? Thinking of adding power with a new combination? Need other technical information or engine specific advice? Don't see another board for your problem? Post it here!
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: CARiD

VATS or Starter?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Oct 12, 2000 | 04:40 PM
  #1  
JRoy91RS's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Joined: Sep 2000
Posts: 560
Likes: 1
From: Austin TX
Car: 91 RS Convertible
Engine: 355
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 2.73 peg leg
VATS or Starter?

Sometimes when I try to start my car, it just goes 'click', 'click', 'click', over and over again. I can always eventually get it to turn over without any problems, but some days it's really bad and eventually it just stops clicking and I have to leave it alone for a while. I figured that my starter contacts were bad, but I heard that it may be the VATS. It's been doing this for almost a year, maybe longer. Wouldn't the starter have gone out by now? What do you think it is? By the way, what's the deal with a lot of the thirdgen electrical components (power windows, etc.) being junk?

James
Reply
Old Oct 12, 2000 | 05:34 PM
  #2  
IROCZZ3's Avatar
Supreme Member
 
Joined: Aug 1999
Posts: 1,053
Likes: 3
From: San Diego, CA
Car: 87 Buick GN
Engine: 3.8L (231 cid) V6
Transmission: 200-4R
Axle/Gears: 10 bolt G80/ 3.42
It sounds like a weak starter solenoid IMO. Heat affects it and the solenoid will draw more power for it to work. But make sure the connections at the starter are tight first.

If it were VATS, nothing will happen when you turn the key and the 'security' light will stay on. So, I don't think it's the VATS.

------------------
1989 IROC-Z, ZZ3 shortblock with some bolt-ons.
13.20 @ 108.69, 2.2 60' on "Road Hugger" radials and dead Auburn posi.
Reply
Old Oct 12, 2000 | 07:33 PM
  #3  
Grim Reaper's Avatar
TGO Supporter
 
Joined: Jul 1999
Posts: 10,907
Likes: 5
From: The Bone Yard
Car: Death Mobile
Engine: 666 c.i.
I agree with IROCZZ3. What you describe is a classic starter problem. When my VATS was going, you'd turn the key and NOTHING happened. It never made ANY sound whatsoever. I can't remember, but I think even the fuel pump wouldn't "pressurize" for the first 2 seconds like it normally does when your turn the key.
Reply
Old Oct 12, 2000 | 07:33 PM
  #4  
Stuart Moss's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 461
Likes: 0
From: Warrenton, VA U.S.A.
Above post is right. If it were VATS, the starter solenoid would not operate (click).

I suspect that the contacts on the solenoid are poor, which is why you just hear the solenoid pulling in (clicking). When it pulls in, it is supposed to make contact for the battery to supply current to the starter motor (in addition to engage the gear). If the contacts are not good, all you'll hear are the clicks. If the contacts are marginal, you may be able to make contact if you do it repetedly, but it probably will not get better with time.

Also as stated above, check that the battery connections at the battery and the starter to be sure they are not only tight, but clean. That could very well be all that is wrong.

If it only happens when it's hot, then it may be heat related.

[This message has been edited by Stuart Moss (edited October 12, 2000).]
Reply
Old Oct 13, 2000 | 11:05 AM
  #5  
JRoy91RS's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Joined: Sep 2000
Posts: 560
Likes: 1
From: Austin TX
Car: 91 RS Convertible
Engine: 355
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 2.73 peg leg
Thanks guys. Y'all always help me out.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
3rd gen money
Electronics
6
Oct 11, 2019 09:57 PM
RS Reaper
Electronics
4
Oct 17, 2018 07:52 PM
Gunner242
Electronics
7
Dec 25, 2015 04:49 PM
HoosierinWA
Members Camaros
6
Sep 29, 2015 12:43 PM
SS-EXPRESS
Electronics
2
Sep 28, 2015 09:14 AM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:39 AM.