the starter is unbolted and the wires are off, but i can't get it out... the y-pipe seems to be in the way... is there any way to get it off with out taking the y-pipe off???

 

Yes.

Since you have the LG4 with the real little Y-pipe, it should come right out easily. Position it with the brush end upward and the nose down, I think it's with the solenoid toward the block, it'll slip right through there.

 

that's what i've been trying to do, and it won't come through... the part where the wire goes keeps getting stuck on the frame (i think that's what it is). i've been fighting to get this thing out for about 2 and half hours.... i think i'm just going to saw off the y-pipe... this is such a pain

 

Don't do that.

It comes out, believe it, your car is just like all the rest of these, when you get it the right way, it will fall right out (and land on your face most likely, if your luck is like mine)

 

if you lift it up an inch or so and than tilt it back it should slide right out.. watch your face and hands those ****ers are heavy

 

woo. i got it out....... now , i can't get the new one in..... i tried the reverse method.... but it doesn't seem to working, thanks to RB83L69 and 89RSPower for the help.... now how to get it back in..... lol.... it hit my chin on the way out

 

it'll go in.. just keep tryin.. havta try different angled and stuff.. if ya really cant get it in just unbolt the y pipe.. dont cut it.. hehe hope ur chins ok

 

My y-pipe was bent at some point and left me no clearance to get my starter out. I had to drop the y-pipe. Took about 5 minutes but I broke 2 manifold studs during it and really caused myself a headache...

Aside from the starter flying out and smacking me on my dome.