has anyone ever made a thirdgen a mid-engine car(meaning put the engine in back. That would bethe most coolest mod in the world. Just move the tank and noone uses their back seats and you have plenty of room.

 

I saw it done with a Volkswagen Karmen Ghia. The guy used an Oldsmobile Toronado trans axle and mated up a duel turbo small block chevy to it. The engine sat in the back seat area and the body had wide flares on it. I also the same combo in a 56 ford f-100 pickup. In that case the guy kept the engine in the front wheel drive mode, and used a cadillac engine. Both were a little weird, but actually turned out real well. There is a guy on fl-thirdgen.org who has a Vette c5 set up, and was talking about putting it in his 3rd gen. That would make a real nice set up especially if it used the rear mounted trans axle.

 

There's an S10 in town with a mid-engine... good for wheel stands!

In a third-gen however... without a frame to work with it would be nearly impossible. Now build up a tubular frame and drop a 3rd gen body on it... that's possible.

Would be pretty neat to see though... although if I wanted one I'd buy a Fiero

 

Screw fieros...my buddy has one...He and I both hate it. Its an 1988 so all the parts cost an arm and a leg...109$ a rotor from Advance! Screw fieros LOL.

He said this on a fiero forum and I quote

"the fireo was like gm having a retarded baby. they tried to take it under its wing, but even gm realized they messed up."

 

lol I totally agree... except for when you have driven one with a 350 TPI in it... holy hell that car was fast!

 

did anyone see the magazine with the twin turbo northstar engine in a fiero? i peed myself just thinking about how fast that must be

 

Hehe.. but you can do some really crazy things with those... esp with a 350 in the back.



... Now where the Hell is Vader for this one?

 

He's probably out trying to sell all those Fieros now that he knows they are a P.O.S.

 

Sorry for the slow reply. I was out wrenching on all those 9-second Fieros...



Not really. The Trio of Fieros is history in my garage.

The main reason you don't see a mid-engine ThirdGen was outlined by Aaron. It would be more feasible to make the car a front mid-engine than a rear mid-engine.

Yes, compared to a 3,400# 'F' car, a Fiero is a go-kart. Any car that weighs 2,200# is a go-kart, including most Ferarris, Lotus, and other "exotic" cars. The reason those cars and their weenie-litte engines have lots of go-fast is power/weight ratio. Put that Ferarri V in a 3,800# dressed-out Y body and see how long it takes you to get to 60 MPH. A lot longer than the 4.0 seconds that the Chevy engine will do.

As for the Fiero being a failure, that's a pretty subjective statement. From a buyer's perspective, it may have been a failure. From the perspective of Fisher Body, it was not only a success, but a revealation. The Fiero Experiment was the first GM vehicle (and first mass-produced vehicle in the world) to use a rolling space frame with easily changed panels. The car is basically built inside-out from anything that preceded it. The steel is on the inside, and the plastic is on the outside. The knowledge gained from that experiment was disseminated through the rest of Fisher Body, so that the Saturn could be born. They're built essentially the same way, and many other GM mid-sized platforms now use the same technology.

Yeah, I guess it "failed" about as badly as the 265" V-8 failed. The same argument could be made there, since the 265 was only around for a few years before it was laid to rest. GM was looking farther down the road than just a few years of sales on that project. GM leaked the end of the 'F' body long before it actually happened. They had probably planned it that way, knowing many years ago that the 'F' car was going to be finished. Start listening even more closely. They're already dropping hints that by 2018, they won't even offer a gasoline-engined passenger car. That's not all that far down the road, people. I'm thinking that having all four tires smoking down the road at 60MPH from the immense torque of the individual servomotors is going to be a "failure", too. You people that are driving some of the latest industrial trucks probably already know what I'm talking about. They're a LOT different than the electric trucks from the '70s and '80s.

Remember the "Moon Buggy" from the "failed" Apollo missions? Start thinking along those lines, but with a GM logo on the door sills. Oh, by the way, the body will probably be constructed just like one of those failure Fieros, too.

Am I up to 2¢ yet?

 

When those days come, Vader, I think I'll have to live like Mad Max. Hoarding/stealing precious gasoline, and putting big spikes on my car to punt the electrisicky-mobiles off the road.

 

There's still a lot of Fieros and Corvairs that race in the SCCA production categories, in fact I worked for a guy that had a 6 carbed 'vair that ran in the 12's....shove that one Nader-baby!!!

 

fiero = kewl
camaro = kewl
triumph spitfire = kewl


its not like you have to choose between one and the other..

personally, i liked driving the fiero..(except the damn cable shifter)


90% of the "problems" people had with them were do to the idiots not thinking when they worked on them.


take the fire issue.

most front engined cars have air going around the engine compartment. so the compartment stays cool

a fiero doesnt have that much air moving around there. so the air temp can get really really hot. like hotter then the coolent temp hot.


now when someone re routes the wiring around the heat shield, or they remove the heatshields, the wires melt from the heat and the fire occurs..

its not the cars fault.. its the idiot that worked on its fault..



i dont see why anyone can not love these cars... they handle great, even by todays standards, they weigh so little that even a mild output motor makes them fly, and you can bolt on plastic panels to make it look like anything you want if you dont like how it looks...
everything is plastic! even the roof.. lol.

they were a car way ahead of its time....

 

i love Corvairs too.

 

on the topic of Fieros.. where do you guys get them all? the only ones for sale around here are in the junk yards and under sides have been mangled by the fork lifts moving them around..

 

autotrader
newspaper


thoes two alone will find you most cars.

took 2 1/2 months of solid searching to find a clean 3rdgen Vert...

anytime you are looking for somthing specific, its harder to find.



btw, looking at fieros, the only diff between a fiero and a fieroGT is the exterior plastic... and the GT stuff (like every body panel) just bolts on.......