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Old Aug 23, 2003 | 07:28 PM
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Canadian vs American

Besides gauges, are there any major differences between Canadian and American F-bodies? I'm thinking my 92 Firebird was originally a canadian car since it has a kilometer speedo and celsius temp gauge. Just wondering if there is anything I need to keep in mind when buying parts, tuning it, etc
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Old Aug 23, 2003 | 08:00 PM
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I don't believe there is. The only thing I could think of at all may be emissions or something like that, but I think that everything except the markings on the instruments was the same.

It's a good question though, I would be curious if anyone knows the answer for sure.

Sorry I couldn't help more, but at least you're back on top.

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Old Aug 24, 2003 | 12:45 AM
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True, I think there are some emission differences, but other than that and the gauges and sometimes the shifter plate, you should be right on.
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Old Aug 24, 2003 | 12:45 AM
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True, I think there are some emission differences, but other than that and the gauges and sometimes the shifter plate, you should be right on.
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Old Aug 24, 2003 | 12:45 AM
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True, I think there are some emission differences, but other than that and the gauges and sometimes the shifter plate, you should be right on.
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Old Aug 24, 2003 | 04:40 AM
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Yeah, you guys have it right.

On my 86 Sport Coupe the only differences I've been able to note are the metric gauges, the much less stringent polution controls, and the total lack of computerization.

But by 92 I think there would be very little difference, if any, emmisions-wise. And every 3rd gen was computerised by then.

It is pretty cool when your speedo reads 240 as the maximum speed, even if it is kilometers
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Old Aug 24, 2003 | 09:14 AM
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I must be getting old. The last time I checked, Canada was still in the Americas.

As for differences in the vehicles, there is something to keep in mind when shopping for parts. It's harder to find a radiator hose in the lower 48 that already has a layer of duct tape on it. And when at the parts counter, you would say "I need a water pump, eh." Or ask, "You got an alternator for that, eh?"

Beyond that, many of the parts to make a complete vehicle come from both sides of the border. I am a little surprised that your '86 doesn't have the same ECM as U.S. vehicles. I thought the carb was still an E4ME.
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Old Aug 24, 2003 | 07:51 PM
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I must be getting old. The last time I checked, Canada was still in the Americas.

As for differences in the vehicles, there is something to keep in mind when shopping for parts. It's harder to find a radiator hose in the lower 48 that already has a layer of duct tape on it. And when at the parts counter, you would say "I need a water pump, eh." Or ask, "You got an alternator for that, eh?"

Beyond that, many of the parts to make a complete vehicle come from both sides of the border. I am a little surprised that your '86 doesn't have the same ECM as U.S. vehicles. I thought the carb was still an E4ME.
You leave our beloved duct tape out of this, eh

No, the only thing my carb had was a circuit for adjusting the primary idle circuit. It started acting screwy so I ditched it and went with a totally primative QJet. Its only electrical part is the choke

It is actually great to work on. Almost reminds me of the simplicity of my old 68 Camaro. Except for the air and power steering.
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Old Aug 25, 2003 | 05:55 AM
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You adjust your own Q-Jet? Geez, You're brave. My old 79 Z28 had a Rochester and it was a freakin PITA. There are only a handful of people down here that will even touch those carbs. Way to go....
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Old Aug 25, 2003 | 09:50 AM
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and the total lack of computerization.
:rockon: computers suck
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Old Aug 25, 2003 | 10:18 AM
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85_ZED - After what I've been going throught the past few months, I completely agree......
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Old Aug 25, 2003 | 12:05 PM
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There is actually a difference in flywheel size. I am going through this on a motor that I just built. Canadian motors use a smaller flywheel than American. This plays H*LL When your starter craps out and you live in the US. But that is just what I have found.
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Old Aug 25, 2003 | 12:43 PM
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Originally posted by Sitting Bull
...No, the only thing my carb had was a circuit for adjusting the primary idle circuit. It started acting screwy so I ditched it and went with a totally primative QJet. Its only electrical part is the choke ...
If you had a primary mixture adjustment, it must have been operated by a control with feedback from an oxygen sensor - unless you are talking about the idle speed solenoid on the side of the carb.
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Old Aug 25, 2003 | 03:40 PM
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It could be an export version too, with kilo speedometer and şC temp gauge. Export version aren't in Carfax data base.

(Mmmm, in my map America start with Canada in North America and finish in Chile, in South America).


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Old Aug 25, 2003 | 06:58 PM
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Originally posted by Vader
If you had a primary mixture adjustment, it must have been operated by a control with feedback from an oxygen sensor - unless you are talking about the idle speed solenoid on the side of the carb.
It had a double capacity accelerator pump that was enabled or disabled by a coolant temperature switch.
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Old Aug 25, 2003 | 08:33 PM
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Man. You guys get ALL the cool stuff...
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Old Aug 25, 2003 | 10:15 PM
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i know that the `92 canadian camaros had daytime runing lights by the way denis v. are u from chile?
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Old Aug 25, 2003 | 10:53 PM
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Originally posted by Denis.V
It could be an export version too, with kilo speedometer and şC temp gauge. Export version aren't in Carfax data base.

(Mmmm, in my map America start with Canada in North America and finish in Chile, in South America).


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Denis V.
America is a term you never hear anyone in Canada use except to describe the US. Just the way it is. We call Canada, well, Canada, the same way Americans call the US America

And Chileans Chile. I always loved that name. Like chile concarnie

And I always thought people from a Spanish speaking background referred to Americans as Norté Americanos.

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Old Aug 25, 2003 | 11:00 PM
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Originally posted by Vader
Man. You guys get ALL the cool stuff...
Of course

To tell you the truth, the best mileage that semi-computered QJet got was maybe 18 mpg. The old primative QJet gets 19.5--with the engine producing twice as much horsepower. Now does that make sense?

Talk about polution control! Which one do you think produces more polution? The new-fangled dual contol accelerator pump version, or the pre-smog antique?
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Old Aug 26, 2003 | 08:03 AM
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From: Santiago, CHILE
Car: 1986 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am
Engine: 305 Tuned Port Injection
Transmission: The famous 700R4
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He, He, O.K., O.K.

Chile or "chili con carne" is "chile with beef". This fruit is produced in the north of Chile, named "ají" (ahi) here. and known worlwide as "chile". If you eat "chile" you'll feel fire into your mouth.

We can use the expression: "chile con car" (or "car with chile in the gas tank") for a fast, rapid and good tuned car.

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Denis V.
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