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multiple "clunks" from rear with a load.

Old Feb 20, 2001 | 09:20 PM
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multiple "clunks" from rear with a load.

This is a strange one. Whenever I mash the gas and have 2 or more people in the car I can hear multiple clunks from the rear end, you can feel also sitting there. When I am by myself and mash the gas there are no clunks.
Seems like a weight issue lowering the car and something is hitting but I can't figure it out.
I never had it till I swapped the rear end for a 3.73 posi.

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Old Feb 21, 2001 | 12:55 AM
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i had that prob when my trany mont went. if not maybe the gears whernt shimed properly

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Old Feb 21, 2001 | 01:06 AM
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I think the cheap solution is to put airbags in the rear springs so the rear no longer collapses.
A lot of cars make sounds when the rear collapses, and it is usually from the movement of suspension parts working at a different angle. It is not always an internal problem with the rearend.

just a ray of hope for you.

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Old Feb 21, 2001 | 01:07 AM
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Mine does that when goin over a bump w/ people in the car, OR when cornering and hammering down. I just had the rear shocks replaced too....thought that was the problem
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Old Feb 21, 2001 | 11:21 AM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by GOLD85:
i had that prob when my trany mont went. if not maybe the gears whernt shimed properly

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I have an ES tranny mount that is still new in good shape. So I don't think that could be the problem.

If my gears were not shimmed properly wouldn't it clunk with or without the extra weight? I do believe I did shim it correct though.

Could the rear axle be hitting the exhaust pipes with the extra weight? I would think the pipes would be lower with weight and closer to the axle? Maybe? How could I prove this theory?



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Old Feb 21, 2001 | 12:43 PM
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Sounds to me like something to do with the driveshaft is hitting the bottom of the car.

Get some new rear springs, that way it won't sink so low. They're real easy to put in; about on the same level of time and difficulty as changing the oil.

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Old Feb 21, 2001 | 02:57 PM
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How long ago did you do the swap? About a week after I did my 3.73/posi/disc swap, I heard a loud banging coming from underneath the car everytime I hit the gas. Luckily, I was right outside my house. I pulled in, "bang bang bang", shut the car off, and crawled under. I grabbed an exhaust pipe, swung it side-to-side, and nearly screamed. It looked like my car had split in half- the whole back of the car was swaying!

After coming to, I realized that I never checked the torque of any of the rear suspension bolts after the swap. I lost the bolt that holds the upper right of the panhard rod to the body. When I hit the gas, the rear swung to the side, and my driveshaft introduced itself to my exhaust's intermediate pipe. I'm still amazed I didn't punch a hole thru the pipe!

I found the bolt in front of my neighbor's house, the nut was long gone.


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Old Feb 21, 2001 | 03:27 PM
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Check the control arm bolts and panhard bar. Maybe something turned loose. Also check the shock mounts and bolts and see if the rubber mounts are even there and in good condition
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Old Feb 21, 2001 | 07:11 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by RB83L69:
Sounds to me like something to do with the driveshaft is hitting the bottom of the car.

Get some new rear springs, that way it won't sink so low. They're real easy to put in; about on the same level of time and difficulty as changing the oil.

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How can the driveshaft hit the bottom of the car? I can't see that happening, especially when I have a driveshaft loop installed.

I know the springs are easy and I have just recently put Jamex lowering springs and it still clunks with extra weight.
Check out my page for what I did to this car, I can handle any mod.


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Old Feb 21, 2001 | 07:52 PM
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Lowering springs would make the problem worse... now, the driveshaft is even closer to the stuff that's above it.

Driveshaft loops go up at the front right behind the trans, and have nothing to do with the issue at hand; unless of course that's what the driveshaft is hitting.

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Old Feb 21, 2001 | 08:14 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by RB83L69:
Lowering springs would make the problem worse... now, the driveshaft is even closer to the stuff that's above it.

Driveshaft loops go up at the front right behind the trans, and have nothing to do with the issue at hand; unless of course that's what the driveshaft is hitting.

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Whats above the rear of the driveshaft that the pumpkin won't hit first? It's not hitting the driveshaft loop up front or there would be signs of that I'm sure.

The problem didn't get worse after lowering, it still takes another person in the car to hear the clunking.

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Old Feb 21, 2001 | 09:16 PM
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Check your exhaust system and fuel tank for "tightness". I had an annoying "clunk" and it turned out both my exhaust and fuel tank was slightly loose.

The problem you may have in isolating this is jacking the car up may "tighten" the system enough that you can't notice it. Try squeezing under the car and having a couple people sit in the car while you see how the suspension handles the extra weight and then start "shaking" parts to see if they "bang around".

If you have a "pit" that will allow you to crawl underneath without jacking the car up, it may help you. This is what it took to find my "clunk".

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