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Failed emissions test!

Old Mar 5, 2001 | 12:02 PM
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Failed emissions test!

I took my car in for emission testing and failed, my HC were too high; standar is 1.6, I had 1.83. They said it is unburnt fuel, what system should I check that would cause this? I have a TBI setup. Thanks for your help.
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Old Mar 5, 2001 | 12:08 PM
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Cat.

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Old Mar 5, 2001 | 12:12 PM
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With HC that high you're looking at a new cat...

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Old Mar 5, 2001 | 12:33 PM
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I had my cat replace about 2 years or so ago, and about 40,000+ miles. How long are they suppose to last and how can I check it?
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Old Mar 5, 2001 | 01:14 PM
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Sounds like you just had it checked, and it failed.

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Old Mar 5, 2001 | 01:28 PM
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Axle/Gears: 12B-3.73/9"-3.89
Causes for high HC emissions (from Colorado inspection system after a recent failure):
Vacuum leaks, ignition system malfunction, faulty computer controls, air injection system failure, incorrect engine timing, incorrect engine idle speed, improper fuel injector operation, internal engine problem, inoperative/missing catalytic convertor.

You didn't say when your last tuneup was. A set of plugs along with wires, cap & rotor most likely will help. Make sure your AIR pump is working and injectors are not leaking. A new O2 sensor can't hurt. If you've had a misfire or over-rich condition for the last 40k/2 years, then you'll probably need a new cat.

I failed high CO on my van (HC & NOx were fine). It has always either just passed or failed. I did all of what I recommended above except cat for previous tests: After replacing cat this time, it all dropped dramatically.

The new cat had a card in the box that required the owner and technician to sign (I signed both lines, since I replaced it myself), saying that the cat is an emissions control device that normally does not wear out - true if everything upstream is working correctly.

Do you have free retests? If you get more than one, you might try the other stuff first, then the cat if you still don't pass. If you pass w/o the cat but are still relatively high, replace the cat before it's due again.

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Old Mar 5, 2001 | 03:10 PM
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Since you barely failed. I would recommend first to try this fuel additive stuff at your local parts store, called Emissions Pass. I have a gutted converter and passed using this stuff. Also let the car warm up, take it out on the highway and leave it in drive or if it is a stick, let the rpms get up there and try to clean some of the carbon out of the motor. Just don't go to high and blow your motor, somewhere in the 3000 range is what I ran mine at
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Old Mar 5, 2001 | 07:35 PM
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That "Emissions Pass" or "Guarenteed to Pass" stuff is a detergent, intended to clean the surfaces of the cat. I used it on my "barely failing" van, and it still failed. Why? The cat material was gone from the innards. Besides, I was using a gas additive regularly before that, and the two smelled like they came out of the same container.
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