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Old Mar 9, 2001 | 10:07 AM
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What do brown spark plugs mean?

What does it mean when the spark plugs are a brown rusty color? The tips of the elctrodes are black and the inner tip is black in the middle and brown around. (Bosch Platinum +4's) They have been in for about 2,000 miles.

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Old Mar 9, 2001 | 10:38 PM
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JA,

A light tan to brown color is normal on a normal plug. The +4 Bosch plugs probably wouldn't be any different. The blackened electrodes are also normal, since there is a lot of ion activity in these areas when the spark is generated. As long as only the conductive tip areas of the electrods are blackened, that is normal.



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Old Mar 10, 2001 | 04:16 AM
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As Vader said, a light brown(tan) color is typical of a good burn.

But, what I think you are describing is completely different than a light tan/brown color. Sounds like you are describing a copper/brown rust color(like an old penny or a brown crayon).

If this is the case, then you are looking at a plug that's been fowled by Methylcyclopentadienyl
Manganese Tricarbonyl (MMT).

MMT is a fuel additive that is seldom used here in the states. It's extremely controversial, just as TEL was in the 70's.

MMT is used frequently in Octane Boost, especially in the brand "104+ Octane Boost" and "Super104+ Octane Boost".

If you are using an octane boost, and have this kind of fowling, don't worry about it. MMT fowling is quite harmless, and should be viewed the same as a tan colored plug.

Let us know what kind of fuel, or octane boost you are running.

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Old Mar 10, 2001 | 06:05 AM
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I do use a fuel additive for when I go to the track. It's made by NOS and supposed to boost octane number by 7 pts. It's the race only additive. They claim it contains Nitro-Methane. This may be the reason that it looks like this, the rust color. Thanks for the replies.
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Old Mar 10, 2001 | 04:08 PM
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That's it Joseph...MMT it is.

The fouling will remain on the plugs for awhile even if you were to stop using the octane boost.

You have nothing to worry about as far as performance is concerned, so happy racing.

Steve

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Old Mar 10, 2001 | 07:32 PM
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Thanks Steve.
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Old Aug 28, 2025 | 03:03 PM
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Re: What do brown spark plugs mean?

Old post I know but thought I’d add a photo of my spark plug condition. Distinctive brown spot on one side of the plug. White deposits on the side electrode.

maybe 5000 - 7000 miles on these plugs.

any thoughts?

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Old Aug 28, 2025 | 04:16 PM
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Re: What do brown spark plugs mean?

Terrible picture, but that plug doesn't look bad to me.
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Old Aug 29, 2025 | 07:56 AM
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Re: What do brown spark plugs mean?

Originally Posted by gbeaird
Terrible picture, but that plug doesn't look bad to me.
Thanks and sorry for bad picture. Was hard to grab. Here’s a different plug and even darker. Hopefully better pic.

Dark brown spot on one side.
Dark brown spot on one side.
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Old Aug 29, 2025 | 11:57 AM
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Re: What do brown spark plugs mean?

That's a little better. The brown color is not a problem, and neither is one side of the porcelain being darker/lighter, either. It depends on the prevalent direction of flame travel in the combustion chamber that can cause different temps and what's burning where in there as the engine runs. Grab a good magnifying glass and check the porcelain and metal bits for any blistering or nodule deposition, which could indicate detonation. I'd not worry about those colors.
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Old Aug 29, 2025 | 01:07 PM
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Re: What do brown spark plugs mean?

Originally Posted by gbeaird
That's a little better. The brown color is not a problem, and neither is one side of the porcelain being darker/lighter, either. It depends on the prevalent direction of flame travel in the combustion chamber that can cause different temps and what's burning where in there as the engine runs. Grab a good magnifying glass and check the porcelain and metal bits for any blistering or nodule deposition, which could indicate detonation. I'd not worry about those colors.
thank you for your time and your response.


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