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Old Mar 26, 2001 | 05:53 PM
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PLEASE HELP or car goes out to pasture

I just swaped the 305 to a 350 in my 91 TBI. Everything worked perfect up until now (3 months after the motor swap. One day everything was fine the next day the car started running 15-20 degrees hotter! It will even run just under 220 on the freeway at night. It has a 3 row radiator and I changed the thermostat to solve the problem(195 degree thermostat), but no change. The guage and sending unit work fine because the fan turns on at the same temp as it did before the problem and after the problem. I am lost as what it could be. Can someone give me any ideas as what it could be! I live in So. California and as the car is now I wont be able to drive it during the summer without the motor frying and the car will have to go bye bye! PLEASE HELP!
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Old Mar 26, 2001 | 06:08 PM
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Hmm... See if anything's blocking the radiator... Other than that...

Coolant level? Clogged radiator? Clogged water pump? I have no idea.

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Old Mar 26, 2001 | 06:26 PM
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The lower air dam, 6" tall strip of black plastic below the front of the car, immediately under the radiator? You know, the thing that always scrapes on concrete parking lot bumpers...

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Old Mar 26, 2001 | 06:33 PM
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Coolant level is fine and I'm pretty sure the radiator and waterpump are not clogged. As for the air dam it is there but worn a little bit and is bending backwards a little bit but not enough for this sudden change in temprature
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Old Mar 26, 2001 | 06:36 PM
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you could try adding red line water wetter. that could help it to run cooler - that is, if you cant figure out the other problem.
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Old Mar 26, 2001 | 07:09 PM
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I used Redline Water Wetter a couple of years back and it seemed like the car rad hotter. Since then I have never considered using it again.
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Old Mar 26, 2001 | 07:11 PM
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Make sure there is no road trash between your radiator and condensor. Pull the top radiator support and look.

After I replaced every other part on the cooling system, one at a time, I decided to get a new Radiator. When I removed the original 120,000 mile radiator, there was a medium sized plastic shopping bag spread out between the radiator and A/C condensor.


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Old Mar 26, 2001 | 07:45 PM
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nothing inbetween radiator and A/C condensor just checked last weekend
I sware I have checked everything imanginable and came up with nothing! Im begining to think that it is somthing internally in the engine causing it to run hotter and not a problem in the cooling system. Anyone agree?
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Old Mar 26, 2001 | 07:48 PM
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Ok, try this if you haven't already. Take the radiator cap off when the car is cold. Then start up the car and let it begin to warm up to the point that the stat would open. If the rad fluid is not percolating or is barely moving, your water pump may be at fault.
What helped my car a little was when I bypassed the tranny cooling core that's in the radiator and installed a separate tranny cooler. Car runs about 5-10 deg cooler now. (Ignore this if you have a man.trans.)

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Old Mar 26, 2001 | 08:05 PM
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i've heard of water pump impellers spinning on their shafts
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Old Mar 26, 2001 | 08:13 PM
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I just did some checking. I started up the car and let it idle. When the car warmed up I squeezed the top radiator hose and it was almost solid as a rock. Is this normal? Or is it too much pressure and could this be part of the problem?

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Old Mar 26, 2001 | 08:58 PM
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or maybe your temp. sensor just hit the sh*ts?
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Old Mar 26, 2001 | 09:20 PM
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I assume you've already changed the radiator cap? Since your system is holding pressure that's a good thing.

A vacuum leak? Look for any sign of leaking between the carb/TBI base and the manifold. Also inspect all the vacuum hoses.

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Old Mar 26, 2001 | 09:24 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by gwman:
I just did some checking. I started up the car and let it idle. When the car warmed up I squeezed the top radiator hose and it was almost solid as a rock. Is this normal? Or is it too much pressure and could this be part of the problem?

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Um... what coolant/water ratio are you running??
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Old Mar 26, 2001 | 09:51 PM
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Try changing your stat to a 180 or 160 easy fix????


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Old Mar 27, 2001 | 12:09 AM
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That hose shouldn't be "solid as a rock". Sounds like a possible clog somewhere. Did you look with the rad cap off to see if the coolant's percolating? That would tell you a lot right there. Saw a problem really similar to this on a Caddy engine once; turned out the stat was put in upside down.

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Old Mar 27, 2001 | 12:32 AM
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is it posible a lower rad hose is colapsing.

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