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Old Jul 11, 2004 | 07:30 PM
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voltage across starter solenoid when hot

My 89 GTA is not starting when hot. So I replaced the solenoid. Now the problem is even worse.

I ran the car for 30 min to heat it up then I measured the voltage across the solenoid when turning the key to start and it was 11.5V. The car would not start.

I ran a garden hose on the starter for 10 min to cool it down. The car then started. I pulled the distributer wire and turned over the starter while measuring the voltage across the solenoid switch. It was now 0 Volts.

Seems to me my problem is the solenoid? I read the tech article on the remote solenoid but I did not understand all the wires going to the new solenoid.
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Old Jul 11, 2004 | 07:35 PM
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Check yout groung to the block and make sure the threads of the starter bolts are clean, maybe a dab of antisieze.
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Old Jul 11, 2004 | 09:59 PM
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Is that little strap that goes from the solenoid to the starter motor properly attached? Are the rest of the wires properly attached? Good CLEAN connections?
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Old Jul 11, 2004 | 10:32 PM
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Connections are clean, it's a new solenoid. Ground wires looked OK between battery/block and head/chassis.

This is my theory and the current battle plan:

I bought a cheap Neihoff solenoid. I think my start wire voltage going to the start terminal on the solenoid "S" is not 12.4 volts, more like 10-11V when the wire gets hot, they are routed from the firewall around the front of the engine and down to the starter. I think this solenoid is much more fussy about the voltage being too low to energize it.

When I turn the key to the start position there was 11.5 V between the "BAT" terminal and the starter post. Should be zero.

I am going to install a Ford solenoid on the strut tower area and run a new wire to the GM solenoid "BAT" terminal, and short the "BAT" and "S" terminals together. This should give it a full 12V when hot.

I will post results hopefully this is it.
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Old Jul 14, 2004 | 12:13 AM
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problem fixed

Well, I installed a remote Ford-style solenoid on the strut tower and I didn't have any hot start problems today. It looks like my problem was caused by low voltage on the start pin of the stock solenoid.

I shorted the start and Battery pins together on the stock solenoid with a piece of metal. I drilled holes in it.
I then ran a new battery cable from the new solenoid to the stock solenoid. Here is a picture of the remote solenoid.
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