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Old Jun 10, 2001 | 08:50 PM
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No power under load?

Okay, this just started out of the blue today. I was driving along, all fine and dandy, then I stopped for a toll. As soon as I started going again, the car would not accept any form of throttle other than a light touch(which I could use to climb to around 70mph). The car would only rev to around 3K, there was extreme lurching and vibrations. However, if I put it in neutral, I can rev the car to red line just like normal. Anyone have *any* idea what the problem might be? It's an 89 350 camaro.
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Old Jun 10, 2001 | 09:09 PM
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Change your ignition module. My guess is that it's not telling the computer to advance the ignition. I had the exact same problem on a C7500 truck.

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Old Jun 10, 2001 | 09:34 PM
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What type of price range would this be? Should be an easy enough task to install though, right?
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Old Jun 10, 2001 | 10:42 PM
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Also. Does it matter that the SES light isn't coming on at all? Isn't this sort of thing something that would trigger it(being able to push the pedal to the floor and having it only rev the three grand, and not go anywhere at the same time)?
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Old Jun 10, 2001 | 11:15 PM
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Check your catalatyic converter, mine was like that for a while. mine got bad enough you could put it in neutral and floor it and it would still only tach out at like 4.5 grand...hell of a safetly device, good way not to redline it

But yeah it sounds exactly like when my cat was clogged

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Old Jun 10, 2001 | 11:42 PM
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That sounds exactly like what the engine will do with a plugged catalytic converter. I am betting it is the converter form your description of the symptoms. Which is not all that bad of a deal since it is an excuse to gutt the converter or put on a 'test pipe' in its place.

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Old Jun 11, 2001 | 02:30 AM
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Ya know, that very well could be guys! My flowmaster rusted off a while ago, and I had to drive with the midpipe just kinda flopping around for a couple weeks. That would have been the perfect time for the cat to take a beating that could have broken it up.
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Old Jun 11, 2001 | 03:55 AM
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Well isn't this just a pleasant turn of events? I was pretty bored, so I went outside and tried to start the car now that it would be a cold start. Guess what? Fires up right away, idles fine, and what's even more wonderful...it runs perfectly. Would this mean that the cat can be eliminated as a source of the problem? More than likely, now it can be focused on something that doesn't stand up to the heat build up of regular driving? Any new ideas?
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Old Jun 11, 2001 | 07:37 AM
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Yes the cat can be eliminated, either its blocking your exhaust or it's not. Also I'd say if the the exhaust was blocked, your engine would run very warm, your headers or exhaust manifolds would almost glow from the heat backing up. I am having this same problem and am leaning towards a bad ignition module. Mine is intermittent, worse when I plug my 6AL in.


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Old Jun 11, 2001 | 11:10 AM
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Duh

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Old Jun 11, 2001 | 02:18 PM
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Crap, well I just got done installing the new ICM, took it for a spin. The problem is there but somewhat reduced. This is most likely because the car hasn't really heated up yet. Any other ideas guys?
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Old Jun 12, 2001 | 02:12 AM
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Do a full test on your injectors. Do a resistance check on them when they are cold and hot (from blade to blade on the injector with the harness off connect an ohmmeter and read the resistance for each injector). If any of the injectors are a lot lower than the rest(they should be around 13-16 ohms but all around the same amount - I forget what the specs are but I can look them up if needed - a bad injector should be easy to spot if this is the problem), than it could be shorting out and messing up all of the injectors on that side of the engine since it is a batch fire system and fires all injectors on a bank simultaneously. That could be it as I have seen this many times in TPI cars that sit for long periods of time. The injectors seem to short out internally but act up more as the temperature underhood rises causing misfires and lack of power.

Also, I wouldn't totally rule out the converter, as it may be all melted and broken up inside and it just happened to loosen up a bit and now it runs a lot better. Just rip that bastard off and gutt it. At the very least it will give ya better sounding exhaust and a few ponies.....

Some ideas..........

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