Tech / General Engine Is your car making a strange sound or won't start? Thinking of adding power with a new combination? Need other technical information or engine specific advice? Don't see another board for your problem? Post it here!
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: CARiD

why, oh why...

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Feb 5, 2005 | 02:36 PM
  #1  
dukemushroom1's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 122
Likes: 0
Car: 1991 camaro rs
Engine: 383 stroker
Transmission: th350
why, oh why...

...can i not get the number 5 spark plug out?!?!?! oh yeah, it's cause the hooker headers i bouhgt don't allow me enough room for a socket and i can't fit a box end on it. Anyway, main question is my car was running fine one day then the next it started backfiring and not idling, I figured it was the distributor (it's done it before w/the same results) but I thought I'd check the plugs too...all of the ones I could get out are jet black. Cleaned those up and now i'm going to pull the dist. and take a look at it...anyone else got ideas?
Reply
Old Feb 5, 2005 | 02:37 PM
  #2  
Token's Avatar
Supreme Member
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 1,995
Likes: 0
From: Toledo, OH
Car: 1992 Firebird
Engine: forged 357
Transmission: 700r4, 2200-2400 stall, vette servo
Axle/Gears: stock pegleg 2.73 drum (temp)
running pretty rich there, eh? when was the last time you replaced your O2 sensor? Check your timing too.
Reply
Old Feb 5, 2005 | 07:47 PM
  #3  
Ukraine Train's Avatar
Supreme Member
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 1,526
Likes: 0
From: Cleveland, OH
Car: '87 Camaro LT
Engine: 355 L98
Transmission: T56
Is it carb'd? Have you tuned it? Sounds like you're running too rich and backfiring sounds like a timing issue. As for the spark plug problem, I took a plug socket and cut about an inch off of it and pulled out the rubber thing inside of it. Now I can slip it on any plug and then use a 7/8 wrench to turn the socket.
Reply
Old Feb 5, 2005 | 07:54 PM
  #4  
anondude13's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 580
Likes: 0
Re: why, oh why...

Originally posted by dukemushroom1
...can i not get the number 5 spark plug out?!?!?! oh yeah, it's cause the hooker headers i bouhgt don't allow me enough room for a socket and i can't fit a box end on it.
http://www.slponline.com/view_product.asp?P=30102

I was too lazy/cheap to order it, so I had my machinist friend make a custom socket for me. I'll post a pic in a minute.
Reply
Old Feb 5, 2005 | 08:10 PM
  #5  
anondude13's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 580
Likes: 0
Here's the one my friend made for me. Got those plugs on and off without issue.
Attached Thumbnails why, oh why...-custom_socket.jpg  
Reply
Old Feb 5, 2005 | 10:27 PM
  #6  
dukemushroom1's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 122
Likes: 0
Car: 1991 camaro rs
Engine: 383 stroker
Transmission: th350
It is a carbed motor...it had been doing really well for a long time. Then I went to start it one cold night and it was acting up, been doing it ever since. It's a Holley 4150, could I have the Fuel pressure up too high, it's at 6-7psi. Timing is hard to check, I (being an idiot) forgot to put in an arrow set to read it when I built the motor, but we can usually get it in the ballpark. And I've got 2 plug sockets, I guess I could chop one down a little bit.
Reply
Old Feb 6, 2005 | 03:00 AM
  #7  
Ukraine Train's Avatar
Supreme Member
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 1,526
Likes: 0
From: Cleveland, OH
Car: '87 Camaro LT
Engine: 355 L98
Transmission: T56
6-7 is perfect. I think timing is the issue. You need to set a timing mark, I think. You might be able to put a screw driver or something in the #1 spark plug hole to check the piston position as you turn the motor by hand, just pull the screw driver out while you're turning so it doesn't wedge in there. When you find TDC mark the timing cover or bend a piece of wire and attach it to the timing cover with one of the cover bolts. In my experience, backfires are usually timing related. Did you ever check the plugs before it started running bad? Maybe over time they just loaded up until they fouled enough to cause misfire.
Reply
Old Feb 6, 2005 | 03:06 AM
  #8  
dukemushroom1's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 122
Likes: 0
Car: 1991 camaro rs
Engine: 383 stroker
Transmission: th350
I used a piece of white tape at approx. TDC, not the best but it helped w/the initial timing, I'll try to mark it more accurately. It's always had a problem w/fouling the plugs. I'll clean them all off really well and try again...it's hard to check timing when the car won't stay running.
Reply
Old Feb 6, 2005 | 10:57 AM
  #9  
Ukraine Train's Avatar
Supreme Member
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 1,526
Likes: 0
From: Cleveland, OH
Car: '87 Camaro LT
Engine: 355 L98
Transmission: T56
If they've always been fouling then you need to tune your carb. Here's a good place to start: http://www.bob2000.com/carb.htm
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
bluevette
TBI
1
Jul 22, 2014 09:50 PM
LastDance
Electronics
3
Dec 22, 2013 09:30 AM
Brybry88
TPI
18
Jun 24, 2012 10:04 AM
Dead Reckon
Car Audio
6
Jan 30, 2012 02:45 PM
Dead Reckon
Car Audio
9
Jan 24, 2012 11:13 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:42 PM.