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Old Aug 30, 2001 | 07:40 AM
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QUICK, need answer asap- what year was the first yearfor 28 spline axels?

I need to know quick what year was the year they switched to 28 splin axels in the 3rdgen's..... i think its 88, but i have found a bunch of 87 rears... i need to know quick.

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Old Aug 30, 2001 | 08:25 AM
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As far as i know 88 was a mixed year(some got 26,some 28) but 89 and up all got 28 splines.

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Old Aug 30, 2001 | 11:35 AM
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ok thanx.. i'll keep looking, all the junkyards around say 90-92 are the same, and that there is a difference between the disk brake and the drum brake ones???

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Old Aug 30, 2001 | 12:32 PM
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I'm pretty sure disk and drum axles are the same
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Old Aug 30, 2001 | 01:31 PM
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i seriously cant figuer out why gm would make a different axel for only 5000 or so cars.....

anwyays, i will pull the axel tonight, and try to match one up tomorow

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Old Aug 30, 2001 | 02:00 PM
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anybody got anything more about the axels??
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Old Aug 30, 2001 | 03:10 PM
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All 9-bolts are 28 spline.

1990 models is what I hear for 28 splines in 10-bolts. Several 89 owners on this board have said their 10-bolts have 26 splines. The only way to know for sure is to pull and axle and count. But I'd be 99% sure an 87 10-bolt rear is 26 spline.

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Old Aug 30, 2001 | 03:49 PM
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I hear that the lugnut stud flange might be thicker or thinner between drum & disc axleshafts; don't know of any truth to it though.


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Old Aug 30, 2001 | 04:08 PM
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The axle flange outer diameter is not particulary accurately controlled on drum brake rear ends. Some of them are too large to go inside the disk rotor.

Like others have said, 89 was the changeover year, but apparently they had a stash of them that took quite a while to exhaust; so it was sometime into 90 production before they were finally all 28 splines. 87 would definitely be 26 spline like Kevin says.

9-bot axles are completely different from 10-bolt ones. Any similarity in details such as spline count is purely coincidental.

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Old Aug 30, 2001 | 04:33 PM
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ahh yes i see... hmmm

well i knew the 9 bolt axels are diff... theyhave the bearing pressed on if i remember correctly...

guess i will contiue to look, if anyone has any, lemme know asap!

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Old Aug 30, 2001 | 08:19 PM
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You can just order a set of aftermarket 28 spline axles for $125 each. They'll fit drum and disk and be much better than a factory 28 spline.

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Old Aug 30, 2001 | 10:06 PM
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well with the limited budjet i have, thats gonna have to be another time.. i followed a link but i just dont have the money...

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Old Aug 30, 2001 | 10:45 PM
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I have changed the passsenger side axle on my 88' 9-Bolt BW Rear End. I put in a drum type axle and it was 28 spline. Well the bearing has to pressed in. 9 bolt parts cost significantly more so be prepared. Second the axle flange diameter on the drum type is larger and will not fit disc. I learned the hard way. Well what i ended up doing is grinding down the outer diameter as evenly as possible until the disc fit as it should. Well if your axle has been bent for some reason or another your caliper backing plate has also been damaged. I know mine was thanks to a heads up Headpulper gave me. What i did is use a sledge hammer to straighten the plate as best i could. It has been working since. No odd vibratrions or anything. I will eventually swap the rear for a 10 bolt but i was in your postion with limited funds. Hope this helps you save some headaches.

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Old Aug 31, 2001 | 09:12 AM
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Ok, well here is what i have found to be bad on my 92' 10 bolt thus far, the backing plate IS bent, no biggy, i will straighten that out. Wheel is bent, and i wouldn't trust a cast alluminum wheel that has taken a hit anyways, the axle is definately bent, and i will be checking the rear for straightness tonight/tommorow nite. i am hoping the pan hardbar did not banana the rear when the side force was applied... if not, i will have to remove the rear end and striaghten it (no biggy, just a lot of time and welding)

anyways, the drum brake axles i will just pick one up, and have it machined.... i can get to a mchine shop and he'll just let me do it... as for the wheel, i might just have found a place to pick on up.

thanx for the good help guys, i'll let ya know what i find about the axles.. i am gonna bring all the hurt stuff to compare to the new stuff when i go to the yards today.

Steve
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Old Aug 31, 2001 | 10:19 AM
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Bent Panhard bar is quite common in these situations. It's about a 5 minute job to replace it (as long as the hardware isn't all rusted together!), it unbolts with 2 bolts, you should just get another one (fairly cheap new, almost free used) rather than trying to heal the curbed one.

Other than that, sounds like you're on your way...

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Old Aug 31, 2001 | 10:28 AM
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well besides trying to find an axle... i found a set, but they wont seperate them from the housing...

Steve
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