TwigBird89

yo i just got an 88 camaro for free with no motor/ trans. I have a 454 for her that i just have to freshen up but my q is:
-what trans can i use and what will i have to mod for this combo to work??
-money is an issue cuz i have none
thanks guys


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RB83L69

Any trans that will bolt to a small block will also bolt to a big block. The simple and cheap way out would be to put a V8 F-body 700R4 behind it.

Your biggest challenge will be exhaust. There's no cheap ways around that AFAIK.

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Mark A Shields

You're going to most likely have to rebuild any 700R4 to handle the power.

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coach

You're probably going to need a set of headers made for that swap. I think Hooker makes a set. Your 454's oil pan may/may not clear the crossmember. Then there are the engine mounts. You also have to address fuel delivery, as well as engine cooling(i.e. larger radiator). I've been thinking about doing the same engine swap and I asked about it on the engine swap board. Someone there directed me to an article that was done on the subject. You may want to inquire there, as well.

88 427 Camaro

All the info you need is on my page, but if you have no money, you shouldn't be doing the bbc swap.

Miles

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TwigBird89

thanks for the responses... im glad i can run a 700 R4. BTW im using this as a racecar so i dont have to worry about a full exhaust,etc... or street legality :-)

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New best run 14.8 @ 93mph

AlkyIROC

Then don't worry about using a 700R4 in the race car. Depending on what type of racing you intend to do, you'll be better off with a Powerglide, TH350 or TH400.

The swap isn't that hard to do. You'll still need some sort of headers unless you want to use factory cast iron manifolds.

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TwigBird89

ok cool i can get a built th350 for free. what do i need to do to make it work and can i use the same length driveshaft?? thanks

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89 Firebird Formula
5.0 TPI T-5 WS6 G92 dual cat exhaust 3.42 posi T-tops Grant signature series steering wheel (sweet), Kenwood head unit with Infinity speakers, Accel cap, rotor and wires, AC Rapidfire plugs, K&N Filter, Flowmaster 80 series muffler w/ full 3 inch exhaust, 180* stat, AFPR
New best run 14.8 @ 93mph

GOLD85

i would go with a th400. dependin gon how build your 454 will be, i dont think a th350 is up to it

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AlkyIROC

My TH350 is surviving just fine and I abuse it. Don't expect a factory stock one to last. The intermediate sprag is the first thing that will go.

Any thirdgen driveshaft from a 700R4 will work with a TH350 long tailshaft 9". If it's the short tailshaft 6" TH350 then you need a driveshaft from a 82-83 f-body that came with a 200c tranny. You also need the crossmember from the 200c tranny or modify the 700R4 mount so the the mounting perch is 2" forward. You also need the B&M conversion kit.

It's a lot easier to just buy a Spohn torque arm kit for a TH350. It will come with the proper crossmember, the torque arm mounts to the crossmember.

The only other thing you need to modify is the TH350 kickdown cable. The 700R4 TV cable bracket won't work.