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Old Oct 9, 2005 | 09:41 PM
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Cant Rev Past 2000 When Doing a Burnout

I drop it into 1st, powerbrake, and floor it. It revs immedietly to 2000rpm and stays there. When I let off the brake and start moving forword the rpm's pick up to about 4000, then I let off. Is it just cuz I have 2.73's?

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Old Oct 9, 2005 | 09:54 PM
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You must have the infamous traction control option.

Your torque converter has a stall speed of approximately 2000 rpm. So your motor will only tach up to 2000 rpm and then the car will start moving.
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Old Oct 9, 2005 | 09:59 PM
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I didnt think any 3rd gens had any type of traction control device. Dose that option show up in the RPO's? How do I change it?
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Old Oct 9, 2005 | 10:03 PM
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It was a joke... (or hes just dumb )

You need more power scotty...
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Old Oct 9, 2005 | 10:06 PM
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See I new there was no such thing as traction control on 3rd gens. My frickin LO3 would do burnouts to 4000rpm while powerbreaking. How can my LB9 not? Its got 40 more HP and 30 more ft. pounds of torque
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Old Oct 10, 2005 | 02:58 PM
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Now that I think about it, even my 2.8 would rev to whatever I wanted it to go to when burning out. Are all LB9's like this?
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Old Oct 10, 2005 | 06:34 PM
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My LB9 would rev up to whatever I wanted when I was doing a burnout.

I usually brought it up to 3500 or so
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Old Oct 10, 2005 | 06:46 PM
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As ME stated, you're going up against the TC.

I tried doing a burnout with my new powerplant. I blew out my rear end.
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Old Oct 10, 2005 | 07:15 PM
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Even with a higher stall torque converter, you should be able to rev past that with enough throttle.

Does the car have a 2-stage rev limiter by any chance that a previous owner may have installed?
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Old Oct 10, 2005 | 07:37 PM
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Shake Zula- We need more power scotty
Car- I cant do er cap'n



It could have a bit to do with those high gears in the rear but i would think it would still do better than that.
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Old Oct 10, 2005 | 09:28 PM
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most likely he has rear disc, good rear tires and a tired eng.


I remember those old lg4 4 wheel disc cars you could watch the rear tires barely turn over
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Old Oct 10, 2005 | 09:30 PM
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Originally posted by 88 350 tpi formula
I remember those old lg4 4 wheel disc cars you could watch the rear tires barely turn over
Unless he lives up north, when burnouts are seasonal.
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Old Oct 10, 2005 | 10:19 PM
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I loved flash blizzards when I lived up north -- I'd be the only guy on the road doing donuts in the fresh snow.
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Old Oct 10, 2005 | 11:06 PM
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No rear disc brakes. Engine has 39K original miles. Went from a 45mph dig with a Camaro that runs 14.3 stayed right beside him clear up to 95mph, so its running good. It cannot be a matter of not enough power. Once I let off the brake the rpms pick up while the tires are still spinning.
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Old Oct 11, 2005 | 02:26 AM
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Originally posted by Shake Zula
Once I let off the brake the rpms pick up while the tires are still spinning.
Like stated, as long as you have your foot on the brake, you are slipping the torque converter and maybe a little more. Your engine probably doesn't have enough power to break the grip that the brakes have, which is why you can only go to about 2000 rpm with the brakes applied. YOu mash the brakes and the gas at the same time: The engine produces its power, rotational force blah blah, goes to the wheels, the wheels want to turn, but the brakes have it on lock down. Engine can't free the wheels up, so the engine gets dead locked more or less at about 2000 rpm, until the rotational force the engine puts out is greater than the frictional force exerted by the brakes (aka - you let off the brakes). That's the gist of it.

Sounds like you have a fully functioning automatic transmission and braking system.

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Old Oct 11, 2005 | 06:14 AM
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I was thinking good brakes+ good tires. There P245 Eagle GT 2's. Im gonna try breaking them loose, let the car move forword so it revs, then powerbraking. Like I said it has no problem keeping up with a low14 sec car going from a pull, so its running good, cant complain too much.
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Old Oct 11, 2005 | 06:39 AM
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let some pressure off your brakes, cars can be very finiky when attempting to do break stands if you don't have a huge amount of power and good breaks.


Better yet, get a line lock.
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Old Oct 11, 2005 | 11:26 PM
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I gott ask,

Why are you so worried about powerbraking this turd?

obviously traction is ample,so there's no need to heat the tires.

So my suggestion is,STOP IT DUMMY!All your gonna accomplish is melting down your tranny.
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Old Oct 11, 2005 | 11:32 PM
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He wants to be cool like me and make a intersection have zero visibility

Not that i would ever do anything dumb like that


It is purely a lack of power or over braking, so either let up on the breaks, get a line lock or start working on the motor.
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 12:57 AM
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Originally posted by stonedchihuahua
let some pressure off your brakes, cars can be very finiky when attempting to do break stands if you don't have a huge amount of power and good breaks.


Better yet, get a line lock.
I used to not be able to spin the tires by powerbraking when I had 3.08s. With the 3.73s I can spin them at will. Combination of good 4 wheel disc brakes, not enough bottem end torque, only 2,000 stall, tall gears, good traction, and lots of weight. I could let up on the brakes and get a good squeal, it would start off, I would stand on the brake, and it would start accelerating. Nothing like filling a riced up honda with his girlfriend in the car with tire smoke, with a van no less.
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 08:40 AM
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Originally posted by Stekman
Unless he lives up north, when burnouts are seasonal.
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