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If I use 5.7" rods in a 400 w400 crank, will I have clearance problems?

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Old Nov 19, 2001 | 09:54 PM
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If I use 5.7" rods in a 400 w400 crank, will I have clearance problems?

Im a little confused if I'll have any problems here. Thanks
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Old Nov 19, 2001 | 10:25 PM
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That would depend on what pistons you use. If you put stock 400 pistons in there, they will poke out the top of the block about .125", so there will be a minor clearance issue between the pistons and the heads. Other than that, no problem.

They do make pistons for that combo, but they're not cheap.

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Old Nov 19, 2001 | 10:39 PM
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The aftermarket pistons move the wrist pin up into the oil control rings.

There's nothing wrong with using the 400's 5.56" rods. Polish the beams and install ARP bolts.

The 5.7" rods need to use the 400's style of rod bolts and clearances need to be checked at the bottom of the cylinder and at the cam.

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Old Nov 20, 2001 | 01:10 AM
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if I remeber correctly the rod journals for a 400 crank are larger than the 350 journals so you may have to have the rod journals cut down for the 5.7 rod unless you go w/ an aftermarket custom rod...

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Old Nov 20, 2001 | 07:10 AM
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Journals are the same size. The mains on the 400 crank are larger.
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Old Nov 20, 2001 | 12:26 PM
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Steve's right. Also, if you use 5.7" rods you use standard rod bolts, not 400-style. They're totoally different bolts and they are not interchangable. Yes, you will have possibly some clearance issues at the bottoms of the bores where the rod bolt nut will come close to striking (not nearly as big a deal as it would be if you were building a 383 from a 350 block, though). Also, the HEAD of the rod bolt may have interferece problems with a few of the cam lobes, but this varies from cam to cam so it's difficult to say for sure.

Again, this is minor-league grinding compared to building a 383 with 5.7" rods.
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Old Nov 20, 2001 | 09:03 PM
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stick to a 5.7rod or 6"rod and go with aftermarket pistons. shorter rods have increase rotational angles from the wrist pin to the crank journal. longer rods are better, just searh any stroker website.

i just built a 383 complete with all the goodies.
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Old Nov 20, 2001 | 09:09 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by prscarf:
i just built a 383 complete with all the goodies.</font>
a 383 is just a little different than a 400 though...
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Old Nov 21, 2001 | 06:37 AM
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drop me email if interrested. I have a set of 030" over Kb139s (400 w/5.7 rods), that have 20 hours on them.

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Old Nov 21, 2001 | 10:23 AM
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I had a 406 in my old 84 SS monte. 400 + .030". I was running stock (reconditioned) 5.7 rods w/ KB 125 pistons (10.1 compression w/ 76cc heads-fairly inexpensive but nice). The rods did need some grinding for block clearance by the rod bolts (don't remember exactly where b/c it's been 4 years) but it was nothing major. Your machine shop would figure it out I'm sure when doing the machine work & balancing. Also, as mentioned above, you need 5.7 rod bolts, the 400's are to short (I remember finding out the hard way). It's an awesome way to go....awesome displacement, power range & performance. The motor dyno'd around 460hp @ 6200RPM's & 450lbs. of torque @ 3500RPM's (guess-tamits based on memory, got specs at home somewhere) making it an incredible street motor!!! Drop me a line if you want more info...I still have all the paper work & specs on the motor.
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