Hello all!!! I am building an 88 camaro to whoop the living bee--jesus out of a little **** burning friend of mine........ he has an

85 nissan 300 zx. mods include a dual stage boost controler,
full a/c delete, turbo timer, dual friction clutch (CF), lowering springs, tokico illumina 5-way shocks, roll bar (4-point), big (lol 11" is hardly big right) break kit, hood louvers and a short ram (cold air kind of) with a K&N. and a gutted interior

MY car is an 88 camaro with a 350 (currently being built) with a forged crank, H-beam rods, 30 over hyper pistions(Kieth black) speed pro bearings, seal power rings, aluminum heads, Holley stealth ram and management system, long tubes and true dual pipes(2.5 or 3" not sure yet) , aluminum radiator, aluminum water pump, and a t-5 with a CF dual friciton clutch, 1.25 lowering springs, 5-way tokico illumina shocks, 17" ROH rims with 255 40's out back and 235 45's in front (soon to be 255 all around) and hotchkis subframe connectors. full interior, 12" subs, 760 whatt amp 8 speakers total (4x6s,1" tweets, 6x9s, and the 12s) With air conditioning

he says " well my car is my car is lighter than yours and there is no way u can beet me in a drag or on the road course with such a heavy car......" so i tell him.. "yeah but im gonna be making enough Horse power to cary my fat *** and my "heavy efing car" past u at a high rate of speed no mater where we race....."

and next winter weather im faster than him or not im building a turbo kit that should put me well over 600 horse....... so no real point to this post just wanted to brag a little about my new toys and ill update with some dyno numbers this spring when i get the motor in (in Na trim) and the HSR tuned..... so yeah ill get proof of the masacre that will be his most imbarasing moment at the track in front of his "porche" buddys (just for refference he workes at a high end car dealer and all the mechanics that race porches are his frinds........)



LETTT THA Ace whoooping begin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! in T-minus 1.5-2.5 months

 

why don't you ligthen your car as well?

look in the fabrication board for a thread titled "late night quest for 2800lbs."

also, what cam/heads are you running?

and those KB hypers are going to hate you when you pour on the boost.

 

dude seriously if you're serious about handing him his *** sacrifice the subs and sound system. Sell em and use the money on go fast parts. They weigh ya down and IMO affect performance of the ignition system with an amperage drain.

 

what heads cam are you running? those are the biggest part of a motor build and you left them out lol

They can either get you a 14 second slug or a 10 second monster...

 

the cam sellection is going to be decent for NA but great for turbo.. the pistons are gona be good because of the design of the top ring (it does requier more end gap) so the ring doesnt swell up and cut the top of the piston off...

why the accord??? not dissing u but just gotta ask.. i used to drive a 99 ford conture (totaly against my religion)

 

sorry to tell you, but the Keith Black (KB) hypereutectic pistons are NOT the piston of choice to run boost on...if you run into any detonation problems you can kiss those bad boys goodbye.

and how does big brakes make you faster? mine has the stock brakes all the way around...drums in the back even...and my 305 probably went faster than you.

 

hmmm...you would be in a for a VERY rude awaikening with some of the guys around here...and they have stereo systems too...and most of them are on a tighter budget than i am (and that's saying something!)

 

Advice.

Leave the 350 for someone elses ride, shoot for at least 400 cubes. Then use your HSR and a centrifugal SC and you will have an unstopable street machine as long as you can keep the transmission and rear end from blowing up.

 

thanks man...the old car was actually red...what would be really cool is if you remember what was before the red car.

 

UghhHhHhHhhh DUnno?
My Guess would be a 66 Nova

 

well the brake upgrade is mentioned because i am planning to road race this car not just drag it..... that makes for a longer acceleration before having to break for the corner . going in a streight line really fast is fun but pitching a car into a corner and pulling a full lateral G with out drifting is even more of a rush... just my oppinion.. this is not to say that i dont enjoy a little stop light to stop light action and the ocassional trip to the old drag strip

 

I thaught it was funny, you got a great crank and cheap pistons ..

anyhow, if you want to build a blower motor, the forged assembly is a big + , but you'll have to run a lower compression, or add a water/alky injection kit.

I doubt a N/A 7.5/1 motor will be fun to drive ..

How high do you want to rev that engine ?
Do you want a screamer or a torquer ?

(example)

Your short block, with cheap worked up vortecs, the HSR, a XR276HR and a goon tune will give you around 400hp/400+ ft.lb at 6k

would that be enough ?

 

the KB's are fine for an n/a application...actually, that's kinda what they are designed around.

i'm running a set of H345NP speed pro hyper pistons. i'll be running the 113casting aluminum heads with their 58cc heads it'll be 10:1 c/r. those combined with an XE274H cam will be right around the 390-400hp range. this is a VERY inexpensive build and will make power. while it won't run 10's...it'll be great for a mid 12 second car(or high 11's with the right converter/tranny/gear/weight combo like i have...)

 

what's the specs on those heads??? about how much do they run?

 

113 casting aluminum 'vette heads. they came on the 88-91 tpi 350 vettes. they have a 58cc combustion chamber, 1.94/1.5 valves and screw in studs/guide plates from the factory. i picked up a set for $400 shipped. slap some new springs on, make sure you have keeper to guide clearance for the cam, new seals, and i'm ready to rock! you'll have to keep your eye out on ebay and the forsale section of this site and others.

i've seen flow numbers in the 190/160 range at like .500" lift. this is for the stock heads. i'll be keeping mine stock for now due to time/money limitations, but when i have another car, i'll be taking them back off and doing a full blown p/p on them. they flow a ridiculous amount when ported properly.

 

Hmmm kinda wanted to stay away from aluminum heads, but that sounds kinda like what I'm looking for...I have a .470 lift cam would that be ok?

 

it'd be just fine.

 

didn't mean to hijack a thread, how much weight savings are they over cast iron?

 

it's looking like right around 45lbs.

 

thank you, so is that the same casting that came on the zz4?

 

i think...that i'm not TOTALLY postive on...

 

with a comp magnum 270, edelbrock 1405, holley street dominator intake, with a stock 350 how much more would I gain over 416 heads?

 

stock for stock? probably a solid 25hp...but in ported form, they will make tons more.

 

awesome, thanks. Know what i'm gonna look for now. kinda wish they were cast iron, but that's cool now when it's time for a rebuild I can shave the deck down a little and make a screamer.