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There are several temperature dependent parameters in the ECM programming. You'll likely experience some operational problems, whether you realize/recognize them or not.
EGR function, EVAP function, cooling fans, fuel trims, Closed-Loop threshold, BLM writes, and several other functions depend on coolant temperature.
EGR function, EVAP function, cooling fans, fuel trims, Closed-Loop threshold, BLM writes, and several other functions depend on coolant temperature.
Here are some of the stock TPI ECM programmed parameters for coolant temperatures that might be affected by changing to a 160°F thermostat:
Open Loop Mode AFR % versus Coolant Temp - Threshold @ 154°F
Warm IAC Park Steps Vs. Coolant - Threshold @ 176°
LV8 Accel Enrichment Vs. Coolant - Threshold @ 176°
Accel enrichment Decay Factor Vs. Coolant - Threshold @ 176°
Idle RPM Vs. Coolant - Threshold @ 176°/154°
Rich/Lean Offset Vs. Coolant - Threshold @ 176°
Startup Spark Decay Delay Vs. Coolant - Threshold @ 176°
IAC Minimum Keep Alive Learning - Threshold @ 185°
Minimum CTS for Highway Fuel Mode - 185°
Hot Closed Loop Timer Threshold - 159°
Open Loop Mode AFR % versus Coolant Temp - Threshold @ 154°F
Warm IAC Park Steps Vs. Coolant - Threshold @ 176°
LV8 Accel Enrichment Vs. Coolant - Threshold @ 176°
Accel enrichment Decay Factor Vs. Coolant - Threshold @ 176°
Idle RPM Vs. Coolant - Threshold @ 176°/154°
Rich/Lean Offset Vs. Coolant - Threshold @ 176°
Startup Spark Decay Delay Vs. Coolant - Threshold @ 176°
IAC Minimum Keep Alive Learning - Threshold @ 185°
Minimum CTS for Highway Fuel Mode - 185°
Hot Closed Loop Timer Threshold - 159°
And some other parameters related to coolant temperature:
Coolant Temperature Sensor Related Parameters
BLM enabled between 50°C (122°F) and 140°C (284°F)
Cold spark advance disabled above 56°C (133°F)
Hot spark retard begins above 116°C (240°F)
Highway Mode spark advance > 59.8°C (140°F)
Knock sensor disabled below 66.5°C (152°F)
Power enrichment at base A/F ratios > 56°C (133°F)
Target IAC idle RPM >80°C (176°F)
IAC multiplier at 1.0 (base) > 32°C (90°F)
Knock Control enabled > 67°C (153°F)
EGR Duty-cycle enabled at 56°C (133°F)
EGR Duty-cycle at MAX >80°C (176°F)
TCC lockup enabled >50°C (122°F)
SHIFT light enabled >50°C (122°F)
Diagnostic communication enabled at 70°C (157°F)
DTC 43 enabled > 90°C (194°F)
Cooling fan #1 enabled at 107°C (226°F)
Cooling fan #1 off at 104.7°C (220.5°F)
Cooling fan #2 enabled at 115.2°C (239.5°F)
Cooling fan #2 off at 110°C (230°F)
Cooling fan duty cycle at 100% at 80°C (176°F)
Acceleration enrichment multiplier at 1.00 below 80° C (176°F)
Acceleration enrichment multiplier at 0.75 above 80° C (176°F)
Acceleration enrichment multiplier at 0.50 above 104°C (220°F)
Acceleration enrichment decay factor at 25% below 80° C (176°F)
Acceleration enrichment decay factor at 40% above 80° C (176°F)
Acceleration enrichment decay factor at 50% above 104° C (220°F)
Acceleration enrichment decay factor at 60% above 128° C (262°F)
Fuel limiting factor timer at 217 counts below 80° C (176°F)
Fuel limiting factor timer at 169 counts above 80° C (176°F)
Code 13 (oxygen sensor fault) enabled above 70°C (157°F)
Code 14 (CTS high fault) enabled above 130°C (266°F)
Code 32 (EGR fault) enabled above 30.5°C (87°F)
EVAP canister purge enabled above 70.3°C (158.5°F)
Hot closed-loop timer enabled above 70.3°C (158.5°F)
Rich/Lean O2 offest at 16 counts between 20°C (68°F) and 92°C (197.5°F)
A/C clutch disabled above 150°C (302°F)
Coolant Temperature Sensor Related Parameters
BLM enabled between 50°C (122°F) and 140°C (284°F)
Cold spark advance disabled above 56°C (133°F)
Hot spark retard begins above 116°C (240°F)
Highway Mode spark advance > 59.8°C (140°F)
Knock sensor disabled below 66.5°C (152°F)
Power enrichment at base A/F ratios > 56°C (133°F)
Target IAC idle RPM >80°C (176°F)
IAC multiplier at 1.0 (base) > 32°C (90°F)
Knock Control enabled > 67°C (153°F)
EGR Duty-cycle enabled at 56°C (133°F)
EGR Duty-cycle at MAX >80°C (176°F)
TCC lockup enabled >50°C (122°F)
SHIFT light enabled >50°C (122°F)
Diagnostic communication enabled at 70°C (157°F)
DTC 43 enabled > 90°C (194°F)
Cooling fan #1 enabled at 107°C (226°F)
Cooling fan #1 off at 104.7°C (220.5°F)
Cooling fan #2 enabled at 115.2°C (239.5°F)
Cooling fan #2 off at 110°C (230°F)
Cooling fan duty cycle at 100% at 80°C (176°F)
Acceleration enrichment multiplier at 1.00 below 80° C (176°F)
Acceleration enrichment multiplier at 0.75 above 80° C (176°F)
Acceleration enrichment multiplier at 0.50 above 104°C (220°F)
Acceleration enrichment decay factor at 25% below 80° C (176°F)
Acceleration enrichment decay factor at 40% above 80° C (176°F)
Acceleration enrichment decay factor at 50% above 104° C (220°F)
Acceleration enrichment decay factor at 60% above 128° C (262°F)
Fuel limiting factor timer at 217 counts below 80° C (176°F)
Fuel limiting factor timer at 169 counts above 80° C (176°F)
Code 13 (oxygen sensor fault) enabled above 70°C (157°F)
Code 14 (CTS high fault) enabled above 130°C (266°F)
Code 32 (EGR fault) enabled above 30.5°C (87°F)
EVAP canister purge enabled above 70.3°C (158.5°F)
Hot closed-loop timer enabled above 70.3°C (158.5°F)
Rich/Lean O2 offest at 16 counts between 20°C (68°F) and 92°C (197.5°F)
A/C clutch disabled above 150°C (302°F)
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Lol, I think the old fasioned tbi ecms have like five of those things in them
Another thing to consider is the stock cooling system. It needs a good sized temperature differential to dissipate enough heat. What this means is that itll run at 160 in the winter, but will usually operate around 200 - 210 in the summer. I got tired of the constant luke warm heat in the winter and no benifits in the summer so I swapped a stock t-stat in and just run that. Runs at around 210 all year around.
Another thing to consider is the stock cooling system. It needs a good sized temperature differential to dissipate enough heat. What this means is that itll run at 160 in the winter, but will usually operate around 200 - 210 in the summer. I got tired of the constant luke warm heat in the winter and no benifits in the summer so I swapped a stock t-stat in and just run that. Runs at around 210 all year around.
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It probably wouldn't set any error codes, but wouldn't be "right". It's fairly easy to properly reprogram the parameters to be able to use a lower temperature thermostat and still retain full functionality. All the steps are listed above.
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Originally posted by 89IrocZ350TPI
The service engine light would most likely come on i bet.
The service engine light would most likely come on i bet.
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