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Old Feb 14, 2006 | 05:24 PM
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Can you splice a oxygen sensor wire ?

Someone spliced together two different wires on my oxygen sensor and then put black tape around it. I heard from someone that you cannot splice together a wire on the oxygen sensor because it won't work right. One wire is green, but the last few inches where it goes into the pipe it's black.

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Old Feb 14, 2006 | 05:29 PM
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Old Feb 15, 2006 | 02:14 PM
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Old Feb 15, 2006 | 02:30 PM
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Is it one wire spliced into the black wire? Ex. black - tape - green.

Or is it a green wire spliced to the black wire, like for something else to get a reading?

If it the case of the first I don't see a problem with that. There would have to be a harness there to allow a clean replacement.

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Old Feb 15, 2006 | 02:43 PM
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You can splice into the harness O2 lead wire but not the O2 wire itself. Maybe you have a heated O2?
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Old Feb 15, 2006 | 03:23 PM
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By looking at it, it looks like the original wire(green) wasn't long enough, so they took some other kind of wire(black) and spliced it so it would reach to the pipe... Or like if they got it off another car and just cut it wires in half and spliced them together instead of just buying a new sensor.
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Old Feb 15, 2006 | 07:47 PM
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is there still a disconnect terminal on sensor wire ? sometimes they break and people splice. you can splice just use high temp wire if possible and do a good job of it. soldier and heat shrink or crimp terminal disconnects and heat shrink tubing. stay away from tape because it melts off and could short out.
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Old Feb 24, 2006 | 02:41 PM
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Unless you have 4 gage wire or fiber optic wires running to your O2 (you don't) just twist them together and tape it. Solder them if it comes apart again.
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Old Feb 26, 2006 | 09:44 AM
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on my mazda the O2 doesn't have any kind of harness or anything like that. just a wire going from the ecu down the o2. I have twisted them together using electrical tape. I have soldered them and electrical taped them. hell I have superglued them. used a bolt with a hole on them. every time I was able to get a good consistant reading from my O2 as read from backprobing my ECU. so donno whats up
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Old Feb 26, 2006 | 11:47 AM
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IIRC, some one-wire zirconia sensors used a hollow lead that admitted atmospheric air to one end of the element as a reference junction. Soldering that would be a problem. I don't know if that is still the case.
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Old Feb 26, 2006 | 11:54 AM
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didn't know that. do you have any pictures or reference to one ofthem?
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Old Feb 27, 2006 | 11:38 AM
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Away from the original question, but what about tapping a wire into your O2 sensor for something else to obtain a reading? Like an A/F ration gauge? Would that cause an improper reading from the sensor? If I was guessing it would cause both readings, ECM and Gauge, to be incorrect. Yay or nay?
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Old Feb 28, 2006 | 09:34 AM
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Some guys tap into their o2 sensors for air/fuel gauges.
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Old Feb 28, 2006 | 03:39 PM
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Originally posted by rx7speed
didn't know that. do you have any pictures or reference to one ofthem?
This was an early '80s thing. At least, that's what I remember from back in the days when O²s were relatively new to the on-board automotive world, although they had in use for years in automotive diagnostic equipment, gas generators, heat treating atmosphere controls, etc.
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Old Feb 28, 2006 | 03:44 PM
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Well, whaddya know? Looks like they are back to doing it again:

"The outside of the bulb is exposed to the hot gases in the exhaust while the inside of the bulb is vented internally through the sensor body to the outside atmosphere. Older style oxygen sensors actually have a small hole in the body shell so air can enter the sensor, but newer style O2 sensors "breathe" through their wire connectors and have no vent hole. It’s hard to believe, but the tiny amount of space between the insulation and wire provides enough room for air to seep into the sensor (for this reason, grease should never be used on O2 sensor connectors because it can block the flow of air). Venting the sensor through the wires rather than with a hole in the body reduces the risk of dirt or water contamination that could foul the sensor from the inside and cause it to fail.
The whole article is here: http://www.aa1car.com/library/o2sensor.htm
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Old Feb 28, 2006 | 04:20 PM
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What? Do you think I just make this stuff up?

Another one from http://www.melsauto.com/

...Newer-style O2 sensors "breathe" through their wire connectors and have no vent hole... venting the sensor through the wires rather than with a hole in the body reduces the risk of dirt or water contamination that could foul the sensor from the inside and cause it to fail. ...
http://www.autotap.com/articles/Unde...n_Sensors.pdf.

There a several others. Google "oxygen sensor" and "no vent" and you'll get over a hundred hits.
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Old Feb 28, 2006 | 10:41 PM
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What? Do you think I just make this stuff up?

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No, but considering your age, we do have to make sure dementia isn't creeping up on you.
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