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Old May 4, 2006 | 10:38 PM
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speed pro or no

I was just looking for any ones opinon on speed pro pistons . I have a 92 rs camaro w / a 355 , stock 76cc ( self ported heads ) , stock crank and rods . With the speed pro dome pistons (p.n. 844-8-kh618cp ) just hypereutectic w / moly rings . This combo will put me some where in the neighborhood of about 9.5:1 compresion . I don't mind that , I was just wondering about the quality of speed pro . Any one care to coment ? Thank you !
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Old May 4, 2006 | 10:40 PM
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Speed Pro is just fine. Are you sure you'd be at 9.5:1 with domes though?
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Old May 4, 2006 | 10:46 PM
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I run speed pro's and they have been good so far in my 383
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Old May 4, 2006 | 10:57 PM
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I am not 100% sure . That number was just figured up a few moments ago by a friend of mine and I . The heads are 76 cc but measured out to 81 cc using water .
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Old May 4, 2006 | 11:00 PM
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I got 9.62:1.

That was with a 76cc chamber and .015 steel shim.

9.14:1 with 81 cc chamber

I averaged a .025 deck above piston but that wont be accurate unless you measure.

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Old May 4, 2006 | 11:00 PM
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what kind

Originally Posted by Mkos1980
I run speed pro's and they have been good so far in my 383
I was just wondering what kind of speed pro ( w / what combo ) pistons you are using
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Old May 4, 2006 | 11:02 PM
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I was looking at trying to get any where beteen 9.5 to 10 so 9.62 that would be good too .
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Old May 4, 2006 | 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by shaggy56
I got 9.62:1.

That was with a 76cc chamber and .015 steel shim.

9.14:1 with 81 cc chamber

I averaged a .025 deck above piston but that wont be accurate unless you measure.
With a flat-top piston.
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Old May 4, 2006 | 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by shaggy56
I got 9.62:1.

That was with a 76cc chamber and .015 steel shim.

9.14:1 with 81 cc chamber

I averaged a .025 deck above piston but that wont be accurate unless you measure.
I have .038 above piston deck . I was wondering were your heads a true 76 cc .
---------- I have .038 above piston deck w/ the flat tops in the car right now.

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Old May 4, 2006 | 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by joey aucoin
I have .038 above piston deck . I was wondering were your heads a true 76 cc .
I was going off the data you provided. I looked up those pistons on the Federal Mogul website.

edit:Im sorry with the 81 cc heads I get 9.5:1 and a .015 shim gasket. I calculated wrong for the dome ccs

If it had been a true 76 cc then 10.03:1.

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Old May 4, 2006 | 11:11 PM
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I think by .038 he's thinking of quench.
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Old May 4, 2006 | 11:50 PM
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Speed Pro hypers are the only ones to use,IMHO.Much better quality that the KBs.
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Old May 5, 2006 | 12:25 AM
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Originally Posted by joey aucoin
I was just wondering what kind of speed pro ( w / what combo ) pistons you are using

I dont know the number off hand but with a 5.7 Rod and a 3.75 stroke the 383 piston comes in around 10:4:1 with a 64 cc head. It has 2 valve relieves. I run the shortblock with a 219 cam and miniram. Plenty of track use and dyno runs and its all nice and good.
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Old May 5, 2006 | 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Mkos1980
I dont know the number off hand but with a 5.7 Rod and a 3.75 stroke the 383 piston comes in around 10:4:1 with a 64 cc head. It has 2 valve relieves. I run the shortblock with a 219 cam and miniram. Plenty of track use and dyno runs and its all nice and good.
I have 5.7 rods but only a 3.48 stock stroke . If I can get 9.5:1 I would be just fine with that . I was looking to use a comp 292 cam and I have 1.5 comp rollere rockers already . I know that may be too much cam . I was just going off of a combo my brother had and it worked out great for him ( 12.3 in a s10 ) . feel free to put in your two cents . Thanks for all the help.
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Old May 6, 2006 | 01:26 AM
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might want to get your machinist to cc a chamber for you. I couldn't get a very accurate measurement on mine, but my machinist did a chamber or two for me while he had to do other work to the heads.

speed-pro hypers are good. Not a race only part (high $$), and not a cheapo factory replacement cast. Much cheaper than a KB piston, and IMHO, the same thing.

I've got the H345's in my motor.


the bigger the cam, (like a 292), the more CR you need to run well. I forget what the duration @ .050 is for that cam, but you do want to be close to 10:1. Are you considering milling the heads or decking the block? 81cc's just sounds huge to me. *IF* you had to get the block decked or the heads milled due to warped surfaces, might as well get them cut down a fair bit, get your moneys worth, then get flat top pistons.
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Old May 6, 2006 | 09:34 AM
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Hey man thanks for the info. I am currently looking into getting the heads milled , but my mechanic was showing me some dyno sheets that show going from a 9.9 to 10.5:1 is only about 8 HP . I dont know if they are 100% currect . I am still looking into it to find out more info . Thank you for you'r again for you'r help.
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Old May 6, 2006 | 10:16 AM
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I just bought the Speed Pro forged pistons for my car. Look nice and came with the coated skirts. I think the Hypereutetics also come with the coated skirts for an extra bonus.
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Old May 6, 2006 | 08:45 PM
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What combo

Originally Posted by 1989GTATransAm
I just bought the Speed Pro forged pistons for my car. Look nice and came with the coated skirts. I think the Hypereutetics also come with the coated skirts for an extra bonus.
What typ of set up are you using in the rest of the motor . I mean like heads, valves, cam ex.
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Old May 6, 2006 | 09:59 PM
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See signature. Fixing to go higher in the RWHP department.
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