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Belt routing on a 91 w/o AIR and AC

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Old Sep 21, 2006 | 09:02 PM
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Belt routing on a 91 w/o AIR and AC

Can I remove that whole bracket on the passenger side and use a set up like this? What are you guys running?
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Old Sep 22, 2006 | 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by crrllmich
Can I remove that whole bracket on the passenger side and use a set up like this? What are you guys running?
It would be nice to lose the whole passenger side bracket but you would need more contact on the water pump drum (no grooves) and keeping the belt tensioned without a spring would require constant attention. Serpentine belts don't have any "give" to them like V belts.
Maybe you could try something like this:
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Old Sep 22, 2006 | 10:47 AM
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Somebody did this around here not too long ago, without using the A/C delete pulley. It worked and looked pretty trick, but I think he had to use a different tensioner pulley (ribbed to work on the other side of the belt than it normally does).

It's certainly no big deal just to get the A/C delete pulley, ditch the air pump and put on a 96.8" belt with the altered routing diagram shown in the tech article section of this board (how to delete your smog pump).
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Old Dec 20, 2006 | 01:43 PM
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That first picture is exactly how I have my setup. No waterpump slipping, I'm using serp belts, but I did have to make a slider bracket on the alt to tension everything.
Looks very trick but next I'm moving the alt low on the pass side (to hide behind the CAI) and getting a new bracket for my PS pump.
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Old Dec 20, 2006 | 03:24 PM
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Car: 88 gta 305 tpi in a 85 S-10
Engine: 88 maf LB9 T.P.I.
Transmission: 700r auto st.2 kit
Axle/Gears: stock 3.44 s-10 diff
im in the mix of doing this on my s-10 with serpentine
im drilling a new hole for the tensioner so it pulls UP instead of down my a.c./a.i.r. bracket is modded to allow the alternator to be in place of the a.c. compressor i have a pic of it here:
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Old Dec 20, 2006 | 03:27 PM
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Car: 88 gta 305 tpi in a 85 S-10
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theres also this picture he has his alt mounted where the a.i.r. pump was
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Old Dec 21, 2006 | 01:10 AM
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Originally Posted by crrllmich
Can I remove that whole bracket on the passenger side and use a set up like this? What are you guys running?

that is how i had mine for years with no problems. All you have to do is make a bracket for the top altenator hole so you can adjust your belt. its real simple, and i actually used one of my engine hoist brackets that are bolted to the intake for the top altenator adjustment, i know its a little ghetto but poor people got poor ways, and it worked like a champ
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Old May 19, 2007 | 11:12 PM
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Engine: 355,HSR,patriot alum. heads,TFS cam
Transmission: 700r4, 2500 B&M stall, shift kit
Axle/Gears: 3.73 ten bolt, powertrax locker
Re: Belt routing on a 91 w/o AIR and AC

i'm trying this setup on my car. no ac, no smog, no tensioner. i rolled a 51&1/8" belt on the pulleys by turning the crank bolt. i'll let you know how (or if) it works. it's as tight as a belt should be so i'm not too worried, and the engine compartment looks pretty clean.

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Old May 20, 2007 | 07:50 AM
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Re: Belt routing on a 91 w/o AIR and AC

Can you post a bigger pic?
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Old May 20, 2007 | 11:47 AM
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Re: Belt routing on a 91 w/o AIR and AC

don't know how to. there's a better one at my vbgarage
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Old May 20, 2007 | 01:58 PM
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Re: Belt routing on a 91 w/o AIR and AC

Originally Posted by 1989formula355
don't know how to. there's a better one at my vbgarage
Quoting Darth Vader: "All too easy"
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Old May 20, 2007 | 10:34 PM
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Old Jun 14, 2007 | 09:00 PM
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Transmission: 700r4, 2500 B&M stall, shift kit
Axle/Gears: 3.73 ten bolt, powertrax locker
Re: Belt routing on a 91 w/o AIR and AC

so far so good.no tensioner, no slipping yet. we'll see how long belts last.
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Old Jan 9, 2009 | 05:33 PM
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Car: 91 Camaro RS, 99 Camaro Z28
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Re: Belt routing on a 91 w/o AIR and AC

Sorry to bring this back but how did you guys make your alternators adjustable and still be rigid?
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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 09:13 PM
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Re: Belt routing on a 91 w/o AIR and AC

any one got a part number on that 51 1\8" in belt that
1989formula355 used
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