Surging Idle... Could it be The voltage regulator?
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Surging Idle... Could it be The voltage regulator?
I saw on a form that surging idle with a volt meter that surges with the rpm gauge exactly could be a voltage regulator...
Im trying to get down to the bottom of my surging problem and i havent gotten anywhere and then i came accross that which is the EXACT same problem im having...
So can a voltage regulator being bad cause a surging idle and how?
Thanks
Im trying to get down to the bottom of my surging problem and i havent gotten anywhere and then i came accross that which is the EXACT same problem im having...
So can a voltage regulator being bad cause a surging idle and how?
Thanks
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Re: Surging Idle... Could it be The voltage regulator?
Surging Idle... Could it be The voltage regulator?
You've got the cause and the symptom mixed up. As did whoever wrote that humorous thing about the voltage making the idle surge. That's pretty funny. consider it "entertainment", but not "technical".
The voltage is changing because the engine RPM is going up and down; not the other way around.
Clean your IAC. Leave the alternator alone.
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Re: Surging Idle... Could it be The voltage regulator?
Maybe... hard to be sure...
The symptom he describes goes with fuel injection.
Look at his profile.
Maybe he has 2 cars.
Maybe he should tell us that himself.
The symptom he describes goes with fuel injection.
Look at his profile.
Maybe he has 2 cars.
Maybe he should tell us that himself.
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Re: Surging Idle... Could it be The voltage regulator?
I have an 89 Iroc 5.7 TPI ICA is bran new, TPS is ajusted and had no dead spots, just did a tune up yesterday and the plugs were all covered in carbon, Ajusted min air accor5ding to the tech article, no codes, New MAF Good relays
The one thing i did notive is that when i unplug my o2 sensor it dosent change or throw a code...
And the surging is at idle in park or N and in Drive idling at a stop or even cruzing when rpms are 1500 or less
Sounds like detonation causing the surge so air fuel because i know it running on all 8 and my shop teacher verified.
And its on when its warm when its cold it runs like a champ then when it trys to idle down at about 160* it start surging.
Anything else. Thanks for the help!
The one thing i did notive is that when i unplug my o2 sensor it dosent change or throw a code...
And the surging is at idle in park or N and in Drive idling at a stop or even cruzing when rpms are 1500 or less
Sounds like detonation causing the surge so air fuel because i know it running on all 8 and my shop teacher verified.
And its on when its warm when its cold it runs like a champ then when it trys to idle down at about 160* it start surging.
Anything else. Thanks for the help!
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Re: Surging Idle... Could it be The voltage regulator?
Check your fuel pressure. Could be a fuel pump issue or a fuel pressure regulator problem.
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Re: Surging Idle... Could it be The voltage regulator?
i check fuel pressure when it was in open loop mode and it was 40 psi but the car dosent start surging untill closed loop so i need to check fuel pressure when it surges to see... O2 sensor check good and the pc is reading it .2 to .6 .2 to .6 ect ect and the car switches from rich to lean mode very fast...
BLMs are 109 to 128
What are BLMs any ways..
BLMs are 109 to 128
What are BLMs any ways..
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Re: Surging Idle... Could it be The voltage regulator?
BLM=Block Learn Mode
Basically it's a rough indication of air/fuel ratio via the O2 Sensor. 128 is great, 109 is on the rich side. Switching from Lean to Rich very fast while in closed loop is normal.
Basically it's a rough indication of air/fuel ratio via the O2 Sensor. 128 is great, 109 is on the rich side. Switching from Lean to Rich very fast while in closed loop is normal.
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Re: Surging Idle... Could it be The voltage regulator?
alright sounds good i also found i had a code 13 it come up while driving on the freeway then went away but it was saved in my ecm. o2 lean at cruse i beleave i cant find a code list but im sure thats what it is.
Re: Surging Idle... Could it be The voltage regulator?
I saw on a form that surging idle with a volt meter that surges with the rpm gauge exactly could be a voltage regulator...
Im trying to get down to the bottom of my surging problem and i havent gotten anywhere and then i came accross that which is the EXACT same problem im having...
So can a voltage regulator being bad cause a surging idle and how?
Thanks
Im trying to get down to the bottom of my surging problem and i havent gotten anywhere and then i came accross that which is the EXACT same problem im having...
So can a voltage regulator being bad cause a surging idle and how?
Thanks
hey. I am having this same exact problem with my 1988 Dodge Ram TPI 318. I was wondering if you ever found a solution to you problem. Thank you
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Re: Surging Idle... Could it be The voltage regulator?
are you using a gm ecm ?
have you followed the advice above by cleaning the iac.
the surging could be fuel related , injectors weak fuel pump.
if this is not a gm based question you should seek another forum. This is a old dead thread.
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Re: Surging Idle... Could it be The voltage regulator?
Help, my 1989 Firebird, 350 TPI rpm's rev up and down when i start the car, then levels off when car gets warm. What is the problem? I installed plugs, wires, rotor, cap, ignition coil and it runs better, but still rev's RPM's when I start it in the morning. Some guy told me my MAF may be bad. i know plug number 3 has gas when I removed it. it has new fuel pump. It also hesitates from a standing start. kinda of shakes also.
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Re: Surging Idle... Could it be The voltage regulator?
i know now this is a gm forum it’s just that this forum had very similar problems to the ones that I am having. And I’m sorry I meant to put tbi 318. I’ve just ran out of other ideas of what the problem can be and thought I would give this a try. I have checked the injectors and they look to be spraying good and even on both banks. I have also recently took out the fuel pump and everything seems good there too. Sorry for the confusion.
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