Tech / General Engine Is your car making a strange sound or won't start? Thinking of adding power with a new combination? Need other technical information or engine specific advice? Don't see another board for your problem? Post it here!
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: CARiD

601 heads

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old May 11, 2007 | 09:55 AM
  #1  
Codename 47's Avatar
Thread Starter
Supreme Member
20 Year Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 1,230
Likes: 2
From: Madison, WI
Car: 1986 Camaro Z28
Engine: 400
Transmission: T5
Axle/Gears: 10 bolt Posi 3.73
601 heads

Hey guys. I'm looking to get some heads for my 400 small block. I was originally looking to get some dart iron eagle 215cc but a guy in my town is selling a set of worked over heads (I know the guy personally, and he's not some jack off trying to screw anyone). He had all of this done at a shop (he doesn't have any flow numbers though):
"I have for sale a pair of totally rebuilt small block chevy cylinder heads. These are 601 castings (14022601) castings that have had the works! 2.02 and 1.60 stainless steel valves, double valve springs (100# on seat - 310# @ maximum lift. ARP 3/8 screw-in studs, and raised guid plates. These are set-up for any hydraulic cam that you wish to run (you must use 8.1 inch push rods)! The heads were cleaned to bare metal, crack checked, milled .005, cut for 1.437 valve springs and .500 positive valve seals. Chambers opened for larger valves in a way which promotes a high swirl intake charge! Valve bowls were bleded, and intake and exhaust ports were port matched (intakes to 1205 & exhaust to 2114 felpro gaskets). They were also given a seven angle valve job!!! The combustion chambers measure 66cc's... I need these heads out of my garage ASAP as I have no use for them any more!!! COME AND GET EM! $250"
My 400 is bored .060 and has dished pistons giving it a 8.5:1 cr. I run a Street dominator intake, crane gold roller rockers, pete jackson gear drive, holley 750 cfm carb (vac sec.) and a hei distributor. If I got these heads I would buy a cam that would suit them best.

My question is, how much power will these make? Are they going to be comparable to what stock iron eagles could do? I like the price. I'm in college and would prefer to not spend 800 bucks on heads.
----------
I'm sorry. I forgot to add. I run hooker shorty headers, magnaflow catback, holley red fuel pump, no emissions. I might be getting a MSD 6AL from my uncle soon too. I think that's about it. If you need anything else let me know. Thanks in advance!
-Greg

Last edited by Codename 47; May 11, 2007 at 10:01 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
Reply
Old May 11, 2007 | 10:05 AM
  #2  
five7kid's Avatar
Moderator
25 Year Member
iTrader: (14)
 
Joined: Mar 2000
Posts: 43,187
Likes: 42
From: Littleton, CO USA
Car: 82 Berlinetta/57 Bel Air
Engine: L92/LQ4 (both w/4" stroke)
Transmission: 4L80E/4L80E
Axle/Gears: 12B-3.73/9"-3.89
It really depends upon the cam and intake chosen, but no reason they shouldn't support 400+ hp.
Reply
Old May 11, 2007 | 10:18 AM
  #3  
Codename 47's Avatar
Thread Starter
Supreme Member
20 Year Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 1,230
Likes: 2
From: Madison, WI
Car: 1986 Camaro Z28
Engine: 400
Transmission: T5
Axle/Gears: 10 bolt Posi 3.73
Re: 601 heads

Originally Posted by five7kid
It really depends upon the cam and intake chosen, but no reason they shouldn't support 400+ hp.
What sort of compression ratio will I be looking at?

You'd say this is probably a good bang for the buck?

601's have the potential to flow enough for a 400?

Last edited by Codename 47; May 11, 2007 at 11:57 AM.
Reply
Old May 11, 2007 | 03:15 PM
  #4  
Sonix's Avatar
Supreme Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 10,763
Likes: 4
From: Calgary, AB, Canada
Car: 1982 Trans-Am
Engine: 355 w/ ported 416s
Transmission: T10, hurst shifter
Axle/Gears: 10 bolt, true-trac, 3.73
Re: 601 heads

If they're well ported, they should support a mild 400. Ie, 400HP, but I wouldn't say a whole lot past that. If you really want to know, you can have them flow bench tested.
What pistons do you have? You said 8.5:1, but with what head eh?? So what's the dish size on the pistons, and how far down in the hole are they?

For $250, assembled, i'd say that's a good deal.
Reply
Old May 11, 2007 | 08:51 PM
  #5  
Codename 47's Avatar
Thread Starter
Supreme Member
20 Year Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 1,230
Likes: 2
From: Madison, WI
Car: 1986 Camaro Z28
Engine: 400
Transmission: T5
Axle/Gears: 10 bolt Posi 3.73
Re: 601 heads

I've got some wicked sweet 882's
Reply
Old May 11, 2007 | 09:01 PM
  #6  
Codename 47's Avatar
Thread Starter
Supreme Member
20 Year Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 1,230
Likes: 2
From: Madison, WI
Car: 1986 Camaro Z28
Engine: 400
Transmission: T5
Axle/Gears: 10 bolt Posi 3.73
Re: 601 heads

What kind of cam would you guys recommend? I suppose it's hard to tell without the flow numbers?
Reply
Old May 11, 2007 | 09:18 PM
  #7  
Sonix's Avatar
Supreme Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 10,763
Likes: 4
From: Calgary, AB, Canada
Car: 1982 Trans-Am
Engine: 355 w/ ported 416s
Transmission: T10, hurst shifter
Axle/Gears: 10 bolt, true-trac, 3.73
Re: 601 heads

Well no, many people pick a cam without flow numbers.
What is the dish on the pistons, so that we can calc the actual CR?
Then, what are you going to be doing with the car? Pure street? Hot street? Race? etc?
Reply
Old May 11, 2007 | 09:58 PM
  #8  
Codename 47's Avatar
Thread Starter
Supreme Member
20 Year Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 1,230
Likes: 2
From: Madison, WI
Car: 1986 Camaro Z28
Engine: 400
Transmission: T5
Axle/Gears: 10 bolt Posi 3.73
Re: 601 heads

I don't know the dish on the pistons. I was just told "it has dished pistons to keep the stock compression ratio of 8.5:1. The heads I believe are 76cc chambers? The car goes to the track once a month, and gets driven when it's nice out and on weekend nights. It's not my daily driver. It's also a manual transmission car.
Reply
Old May 11, 2007 | 10:18 PM
  #9  
Sonix's Avatar
Supreme Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 10,763
Likes: 4
From: Calgary, AB, Canada
Car: 1982 Trans-Am
Engine: 355 w/ ported 416s
Transmission: T10, hurst shifter
Axle/Gears: 10 bolt, true-trac, 3.73
Re: 601 heads

Better go find out what size the dish is on the pistons then eh?
I could back track the math for you, but I doubt it'd be all that accurate. You can measure, get a p/n off the piston, or ask the PO.

I'd go for a fairly big cam, since it's a big motor, non daily, with a stick shift, relatively light car and 3.23 gears. 240 @ .050, solid flat tappet. Might as well have some fun eh?
Reply
Old May 12, 2007 | 10:48 AM
  #10  
Codename 47's Avatar
Thread Starter
Supreme Member
20 Year Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 1,230
Likes: 2
From: Madison, WI
Car: 1986 Camaro Z28
Engine: 400
Transmission: T5
Axle/Gears: 10 bolt Posi 3.73
Re: 601 heads

I'm going to buy them for 200 bucks. I'll get them this Friday when I'm home from school. How do you measure the dish of the piston? I'm just going to remove the heads on the 400 and measure the dish. Fill me in. Thanks.
-Greg
Reply
Old May 12, 2007 | 05:57 PM
  #11  
Sonix's Avatar
Supreme Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 10,763
Likes: 4
From: Calgary, AB, Canada
Car: 1982 Trans-Am
Engine: 355 w/ ported 416s
Transmission: T10, hurst shifter
Axle/Gears: 10 bolt, true-trac, 3.73
Re: 601 heads

The pistons might be stamped with a number on top, and you can google that number and decode the part number.
Or, go to a vet and buy a syringe with graduations. It'll most likely be in the 10-22cc range, so a syringe that can measure that would work. Then just fill it up and push the liquid into the piston dish until its full. That should be close enough.
Reply
Old May 13, 2007 | 12:25 PM
  #12  
Dyno Don's Avatar
Supreme Member
25 Year Member
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Mar 2000
Posts: 5,703
Likes: 132
From: Orange, CA
Car: '90 Trans Am-12.45@110.71
Engine: 355 w/AFR 195's Elem. 400/430 HP/TQ
Transmission: Tremec T-56
Axle/Gears: 12 Bolt 3.73
Re: 601 heads

Mortec says those are 305 53cc heads (14022601)
http://www.mortec.com/
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Hotrodboba400
Firebirds for Sale
3
Dec 10, 2019 07:07 PM
92projectcamaro
Engine/Drivetrain/Suspension Parts for Sale
11
Jan 18, 2016 08:00 AM
FormulasOnly
Tech / General Engine
7
Sep 6, 2015 10:42 AM
z28guy134
Engine Swap
1
Sep 1, 2015 11:50 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:04 AM.