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Old Jul 11, 2007 | 02:13 PM
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Prob with my LO3

Hey guys, just finished a plug/ wire job on my 91 firebird with the LO3 5 spd. When you first start the car, no matter how warm or cold the engine is, it runs really rough like it has a big cam, then after a minute of struggling to stay running the computer kicks the idle up a bit and it smooths right out, then the idle drops back to normal (~700). Now after the computer fixes the rough idle, the SES light immediately comes on. Before the tune up, the SES light NEVER came on and it didn't run rough. I'm assuming it's a sensor problem right now. A friend told me it could be the o2 sensor but I have no idea. Any help would be great. Thanks in advance.
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Old Jul 11, 2007 | 02:48 PM
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Re: Prob with my LO3

Read the codes and find out why the SES light is on.
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Old Jul 11, 2007 | 06:24 PM
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Re: Prob with my LO3

I agree with ape, but are you sure you put the wires on right?
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Old Jul 12, 2007 | 01:58 PM
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Re: Prob with my LO3

Well I had already planned on reading the codes, but I was wondering if any sensors are prone to making the car do things like that. As far as wires go, i'm pretty positive I put em on right, but i'll go and check again as you never know what could happen.
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Old Jul 12, 2007 | 10:16 PM
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Re: Prob with my LO3

Well, I went over the firing order 3-4 times and everything is where it should be. So looks like it's time to check out the codes. Thanks for the replies.
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Old Jul 12, 2007 | 11:52 PM
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To be honest with you, it was time to check the codes the first time the light came on.
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Old Jul 13, 2007 | 12:51 AM
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Re: Prob with my LO3

Originally Posted by five7kid
To be honest with you, it was time to check the codes the first time the light came on.
Bwahahaahaha, so true
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Old Jul 15, 2007 | 08:35 AM
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Re: Prob with my LO3

You should take a close look at all the plastic vacuum lines to see if you might've broken one while changing the wires, especially the vacuum line that runs to the MAP sensor. Those plastic lines are real easy to break when you're doing the plug wires. If your MAP vacuum line is broken, it can cause the motor to run rough until the computer compensates for it by going to a set parameter, but it'll also trigger the check engine light since you essentially just went into "limp home" mode.
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Old Jul 16, 2007 | 11:40 PM
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Re: Prob with my LO3

i had the same problem with my LO3. it was the coolant temp sensor connector.

Last edited by mystikkal_69; Jul 16, 2007 at 11:43 PM.
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Old Jul 16, 2007 | 11:50 PM
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Re: Prob with my LO3

yeah thats all well and good that you got the plugs in the right order and all but that doesnt mean they are on the right posts that also needs to be checked and make sure they are all properly seated... new wires can sometimes be a pain to get snapped into place especailly with all the contorsions required to get your hand to some of them
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